TheYanks04 wrote:Burkett was also a product of the NL though. He pitched well or decent for a good portion of his career with the Giants and FLa. When he went to Tex he got lit up. He went back to the NL in Atl and pitched pretty decent. Then went back to the AL and got lit up again.
How much Mazzone really had to do with that I don't know. I think Burkett was just one of those pitchers that the pitcher's hitting and the 3 or 4 gimme outs in the lineup each game really made a difference.
Someone sent me this link the other day when we were talking about pitching coaches. I didn't really study his research and mathematics, but the results really stood out to me when I read them.http://www.sabernomics.com/
How Good is Leo Mazzone?
So, what's the veridict? Leo Mazzone is a damn good coach! Working with Leo is shaves off between .55 and .85 points of a pitcher's ERA. And I promise you, the results are not some artifact of some manipulation of the numbers to prove a point. In fact, my bias when I started this project was that Leo was a bit overrated. To put this in perspective, the standard deviation of ERA for pitchers in the sample was 1.36. Leo's boys gain about half of a standard deviation on their ERA. I think Schuerholz ought to take this number into arbitration hearings with pitchers. Also interesting is the fact that the effect seems to go away when pitchers leave. This may be because Mazzone imparts useful everyday help, not just new knowledge to fix an old problem, or maybe the Braves know when to dump guys. In any event I think it's clear Rob Neyer was not exaggerating when he suggested Leo Mazzone ought be in the Hall of Fame.
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