TheYanks04 wrote:Most amusing. How a Soriano debate turns to a Jeter debate. Like Soriano has EVER been anything but a well below avg 2b?
Until this year (when he moved from the bottom of the cellar to just about average- and somehow slid his way past more deserving candidates into the GG spot), Jeter was one of the worst five fielders in baseball. So this doesn't really hold water.
TheYanks04 wrote:Man is a total hack and anyone who has seen him play 2b knows that. He was brutal at SS. Even worse at 3b and is at best below avg at 2b.
Not true. His career (weighted) Range Factor (the best tool we have for fielding ability), is 4.68 over an average of 4.38. He was above average in every year but 2001. What are you looking at, fielding percentage? I thought everyone knew by now that doesn't matter.
He played SS for 10 games in his career, same for 3B. Not nearly enough of a sample size, but you're probably right. Regardless, who cares how he played at short and third? Does it matter?
TheYanks04 wrote:The reason he does not want to move is simple...as an OF he will not command as much money as a free agent or in arbitration. His numbers amonst OFs would not be elitest. Nor would he be an All Star. This has ZIP to do with his comfort level or love of 2b or anything else.
Really? I wish you'd outlined that in your first post, when that though hadn't come to you yet. Naturally, though, since you know what goes on in Soriano's head, you're absolutely right.
TheYanks04 wrote:It has even less to do with a nonsensical debate as to which position one excellent fielder (AROD) and one above avg one (Jeter) both of whom are making a boat-load of money already should be playing.
Sorry, I just laughed out loud.
Jeter, an above-average fielder? Are you kidding me? How many times have we had this debate? Guess what, guys... He's still only average. He had a RF of 4.32 over an average of 4.12, right. However, his RF/9 was under average by 0.10 (4.46 to 4.56). That averages out to .1 above average, which is basically nothing. Throw in the fact that he's been horrid at short for the past six years and you've got what you've always had: a poor fielder.
Would you say Jeter not moving from short to second for A-Rod is the same kind of selfish guy? Interested only in himself?
I'm still just wondering.