slomo007 wrote: LBJackal wrote:
Well a Guzman/Young middle infield would be a bit better than Young/Soriano, for defense. Young was a much better 2B than SS. But still, Guzman, even though better defensively than Young at SS, is terrible at defense and offense. I don't think it'd be a good idea to get him. He's a #9 hitter with bad defense, like I already mentioned. He can't get on base, he can't hit for power, he can't play SS. Pretty much all he does is steal bases once in a while, and he's not even very good at that
Guzman's 2004 (regular season) Stats: .274 BA, .309 OBP, .384 SLG, 8 HRs, 10 SB, 5 CS
Renteria's 2004 (regular season) Stats: .287 BA, .327 OBP, .401 SLG, 10 HRs, 17 SB, 11 CS
Guzman's 2004 Salary: $3.275 Million
Renteria's 2004 Salary: $7.25 Million
Call me crazy, but based on this year's stats, I'd take Guzman over Renteria given the large amount of money Renteria is going to require. The Cardinals would be much better off saving the money they would have spent on Edgar and investing in a true Ace, the one thing they don't have.
That was a down year for Renteria. And he was still a lot better. OBA, SLG, OPS the past 3 seasons:
Renteria: .364, .421, .785
Guzman: .303, .379, .682
Renteria is a MUCH better hitter. He can bat at the top of their order and set up the guys behind him to score runs. I think that makes a pretty big difference, and I think they'd rather spend more to have a better team, even if Guzman being $5M cheaper would provide more value. They can make an offer to another SP, but it's not like they need to add more than one. Woody is supposed to be signing for less than last year, Carpenter and Suppan are coming back, Morris' $12.5M is off the books and can be spent on another SP, and they have Haren, Marquis, and Ankiel left for the #5 spot. I don't see a big hole at SP where they'd need to make such a big downgrade of Renteria to Guzman.
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