FatGuyWithAMullet wrote: LCBOY wrote:
FatGuyWithAMullet wrote:Who would you rather build a franchise around; Andre Dawson or Joe DiMaggio?
Come on now. Pujols is a little better than Dawson...
You really think I was comparing Pujols to Dawson?
Pujols is the rarest breed of player; capable of being placed in the same tier as the likes of Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx, Barry Bonds and so on. Beltran will never
touch that legendary status.
This is no
Pujols is a wonderous talent but let's not get carried away. Let's give him 10 years in the league before we can compare him the legends of the game. Since Pujols is a first baseman he must be compared to great first baseman. First base is one of the most stacked positions in the Hall of Fame:
Just to name a few. Then you still have Mark McGwire, Frank Thomas, and Jeff Bagwell...
According the http://www.Baseball-Reference.com
using Bill James Similarity Score system, through four seasons the "most similar" player to Pujols purely as a hitter
is Joe DiMaggio. Here are the top 10 most similar players through four seasons:
1.Joe DiMaggio (928) *
2.Jimmie Foxx (912) *
3. Ted Williams (903) *
4. Vladimir Guerrero (888)
5. Frank Robinson (887) *
6. Hal Trosky (882)
7. Hank Aaron (876) *
8. Joe Medwick (868) *
9. Orlando Cepeda (867) *
10. Ken Griffey Jr. (862)
That is very impressive list!! There are two caveats though:
1) Similarity Scores ONLY take into account offensive not defense. Joe D was a fleet footed Gold Glove calibre center fielder and Pujols is a first baseman, a good one, though.
2) Similarity Scores don't make adjustments for different eras. I'd be interested to see what kind of Win Shares Joe D and Pujols had through four years.
A lot can happen to a player through out their career. Injuries can ruin a players chance at greatness. Remember Ken Griffey Jr? Through age 30 he had a shot at being perhaps the greatest center fielder of all time, had a shot at 800 HRs, and 200 RBIs, etc. Of course things are very different now.
Still I love Pujols and if I have the top pick in next season's draft he WILL be my #1 pick.