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Postby George_Foreman » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:27 pm

someone asked me the other day, and i'm quite curious. i mean, you can hardly call russ ortiz an ace, and jaret wright has been getting shelled lately, despite his 15 wins on the season. smoltz is certianly the best pitcher (despite last night's performance. yeesh), but can a reliever be your ace?

so what are your thoughts? Personally, i'm just going to say its horacio ramirez. ;-)
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Postby thetongueofire » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:31 pm

dont wanna freak anyone out, but is Paul Byrd "the ace" ?
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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:42 pm

How do you figure Jaret Wright has been getting shelled lately? The Mets hit him hard, but before that he rattled off 4 straight quality starts against the Dodgers, Giants and Phillies, and he just dominated the Fish in his last start...and yes, I'm the biggest Jaret Wright supporter on these boards.

How is Horacio Ramirez their ace? He hasn't pitched since what, June?
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Postby bleach168 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:08 pm

I would bet that Russ Ortiz gets the ball in game one of the division series.
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Postby warrick95 » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:14 pm

Ortiz due to experience and track record more than anything.
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Postby mcqfesijiba » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:30 pm

The answer is easy. They have no ace. They have a good number of solid starters in Wright, Thomson, Ortiz, Byrd, and Hampton, but I have a hard time classifying any of them as aces. I do agree that Ortiz will probably be their #1 in the playoffs. I can't wait for the playoffs. It looks like there could be some real good matchups this year.
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Postby FatGuyWithAMullet » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:32 pm

mcqfesijiba wrote:The answer is easy. They have no ace. They have a good number of solid starters in Wright, Thomson, Ortiz, Byrd, and Hampton, but I have a hard time classifying any of them as aces. I do agree that Ortiz will probably be their #1 in the playoffs. I can't wait for the playoffs. It looks like there could be some real good matchups this year.


There's a difference between asking who is a teams ace and asking if they have an ace. Every team has a staff ace, which was the question posed.
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Postby mcqfesijiba » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:46 pm

Yeah, you got me. Worded like that, that is definitely the case. I still think that as opposed to an ace, they just have 5 good pitchers go out and give their team a chance to win. Is it possible to have an "ace by committee" like with closers? I do know what a staff ace is, but I don't believe it necessarily has to be bestowed upon one guy.

Anyways, I did still give a reaosnable answer to the question when I said Russ Ortiz is probably their #1. But it really is a tough call as Ortiz hasn't had the best season of the bunch. I think when it comes down to it, he has the best chance to be their big game pitcher.
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Postby hybrid » Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:57 pm

Yeah umm, how has J. Wright been getting shelled lately? You seriously have your info mixed up on that one. In his last 6 starts he has only had 1 that wasn't better then a quality start. In his last 15 starts he has only had 2 that weren't better then quality starts. IMO by far the best pitcher on their staff, I'm not sure if there is even a close 2nd to Wright.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:35 pm

I'm pretty sure teh Horacio Ramirez thign was a joke......

but yeah, I guess right is their best SP. ORtiz has been good too, and has playoff experience, so he might get the first start. He has been pretty bad in the palyoffs though, so maybe Wright :-? Hampton also has playoff experience, and has been pretty good in the post season. 3.90 ERA in 57 IP. Regardless, they have 5 pretty good SP's and as usual can score runs when they need to.
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