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Postby oddmanout7 » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:34 am

Who will have the better 2nd half? I think its close as they both have injury problems, Sheff with his shoulder and Maggs with his knee, and both are in strong lineups. My vote goes to Sheff who even though his shoulder hurts him, he keeps playing (and hitting them out of the park...).
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Postby GSes » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:37 am

SHEFF!

He is hurt al year, plays thru it is having a "dissapointing" season

ya he is on pace for

34HR
120 RBI
120 Runs
300 AVG

dissapointing?

he hasne even had a hot streak yet either
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Postby oddmanout7 » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:44 am

I've heard that his shoulder injury may effect his power numbers... I've yet to see it so far, but it seems resonible that his power numbers may decline.
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Postby NZF » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:49 am

Sheff has had injury problems 8-o

He's only missed a handful of games all year.

Sheff will have a better second half ;-D
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Postby nmarq8 » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:46 am

put it this way, I have maggs, and I would absolutely love a one-on-one trade offer of shef for him. not much doubt in my mind about this one.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:56 am

Even when he's injured Sheff is better than Maggs.

What will Maggs get you? 30 HR, .300 BA, 100 RBI, 100 R, 10 SB's (none so far and with a bum knee, I don't see him stealing any time soon). He's over-rated because he USED to be a SB threat. Now he's pretty much Jose Guillen with less speed.

Sheff could do that with one arm... and he'll probably do it this season with one arm actually. Like GSes said, he's on pace for better than that this year.

If both players were healthy, Sheff would win in a landslide. Same thing if both players are injured IMO, and even more in Sheff's favour since he plays through the injuries and Maggs goes on the DL for his.
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Postby NZF » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:59 am

He's still far better than Jose Guillen. A 30 point better batting average helps for a start. Probably only on a par with someone like Garet Anderson now that he isn't stealing. Remember he is still only 30 and I'm sure will bounce back from this knee injury.

Until this year he had played at least 145 games every season since 1998 so it's not as though he's another Ken Griffey waiting to happen.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:27 am

Guillen has batted .308 over the past 2 seasons.... Maggs has batted .309 in the same time span. Guillen has 9 more HR, 7 more R, and 16 more RBI, in roughly the same amount of AB's.

Are Guillen and Maggs really that different?

And I don't see where you come up with a 30 point difference in BA. Even if Maggs bounces back from the injury, which is a big "if", Guillen has still been as good or better in every category over the past 2 seasons.
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Postby NZF » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:02 am

LBJackal wrote:
And I don't see where you come up with a 30 point difference in BA.


Career averages.

Ordonez .307

Guillen .273

If Guillen can do this again for another season or two he deserves to be rated alongside Maggs in fantasy terms, but it's a little too early for that.
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