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sfgfan4life wrote:I am probably one of the few who doesn't think Rolen or Pujols should be the MVP. Why? Well because if you take one of them out of the lineup, you still have another MVP to make up for the loss. And There lineup would still be better, without one out of the two of them in it, then a lot of lineups in baseball. I think Bonds or Schmidt shoud be it. I admit that I am a bit biased, but if you take Bonds or Schmidt out of the lineup or rotation, the Giants would be either in last place or second to last place. If you take Pujols, Rolen, or even Thome out of there lineups you still have a decent team at least. In the cardinals case, you you probably still would have a playoff caliber team. In my opinion, Schmidt and Bonds are more valuable to there team then Pujols or Rolen.
I'm guessing a lot of you will disagree, so don't bash me too much.
sfgfan4life wrote:The difference with the Giants two MVP canidates and the Cardinals is that if one of the two cardinals gets taken away they still have the offense to pick up the slack. If you take away one of the two Giants you either have a very weak roation or a very weak lineup. With the Cardinals, they would still have a very solid lineup and nothing happens to there pitching. Last time I checked, Barry can't pitch and Schmidt isn't that great of a hitter so losing one of them hurts the Giants a lot more than losing Pujols or Rolen hurts the Cardinals. I feel that makes the two situations different.
"Statistically, Bonds is on a different level than every other play in baseball. No Player has ever been deemed so good, opponents simply refuse to pitch to him as a matter of course. But you wonder how far it goes. Theoretically, if National League managers walked Bonds every time up and he had an OBP of 1.000, would he still be the most valuable player in the league? Maybe, but he's forcing all of us to redefine the standard perception of what constitutes an MVP."
That makes perfect sense. There is a reason pitchers pitch around him. He has gotten on base 63% of the time. So what. If your team can't drive you in you being on base is worthless. Yes he is 4th in the NL in runs scored, but considering how many times he's been on base that is very poor. For him to truly be the MVP, his walking/OBP would have to justly compensate his lack of true at bats and opportunities to drive batters in (only 51 RBIs this year). He would need to be scoring runs at a much higher clip.
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