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WhiteHot wrote:perlick29 wrote:WhiteHot wrote:Did you watch the game? The 3-run HR early in the game was a obvious foul ball. It wasn't a HR.
So that's why he should be an all star? Because the ball was foul?
Did he pitch well otherwise? No. 9 hits 2 BB in 6.2 innings.
So the ball was foul, it was crushed. He didn't pitch well otherwise, that's why he's not an all-star.
It seems like you are using today's game as some kind of proof that he shouldn't be an all-star (i agree he shouldn't be an all-star, but your logic is flawed).
First, you don't mention the 6Ks. Way to throw up a strawman.
Second, it shouldn't be 6ER because of a obviously botched call.
Third, so if someone crushes a foul ball, that makes the pitcher bad? That's pretty much what you are saying.
Fourth, do you see the park that he has to pitch in? It's a friggin' launching pad.
Fifth, don't ever make cases on one outing. It seems thats what you are doing here. Everyone bashed Santana early in the year and what happened? Every praised Zito before the season and what happened? 9 hits in 6.2 isn't that bad considering one hit was false.
JOEG wrote:so 11 wins is 11 wins, who cares how many runs were scored
winning is everything in baseball and this guy was involved in 11 of them which is great
Not biased as we overpaid for him and got Silva for him whose about as effective as single ply toliet paper, so if anything I hope he does bad, actually he was a very nice guy, so I'm happy for his success
perlick29 wrote:JOEG wrote:so 11 wins is 11 wins, who cares how many runs were scored
winning is everything in baseball and this guy was involved in 11 of them which is great
Not biased as we overpaid for him and got Silva for him whose about as effective as single ply toliet paper, so if anything I hope he does bad, actually he was a very nice guy, so I'm happy for his success
So you would have him on your fantasy team with those numbers? 11 wins is nice but how about ERA and WHIP?
JOEG wrote:so 11 wins is 11 wins, who cares how many runs were scored
winning is everything in baseball and this guy was involved in 11 of them which is great
perlick29 wrote:The 6k's I probably should've mentioned but other than that here's the point:
He was being hit hard tonight which is following a long line of non- quality starts this year. This one start was not the point i was making, The point is this was another one of his starts where he gives up a lot of runs only this time he got no support.
The ball that was foul was hit hard like all the rest of the hits he gave up.
As to your point about Citizen's bank being a launching pad: ERA and WHIP at home: 4.21 and 1.50. ERA and WHIP on the road: 4.80 and 1.56. Meaning it aint just the park big guy.
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