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LionsandTigersOhMy wrote:What does it matter where it came from? What they said is what matters.
Did the dims not go after Saddam because they thought the intelligence was bad? Or because Bill had no guts?
To answer your question. Yes it was worth it! They will find the weapons. Matter of fact they have already found several Sarin filled shells. Just a matter of time. Aside from that, it was worth it to me because we will have better intelligence from now on, by being in Iraq and helping their democracy blossom!
Now you answer me a question.
1) If Saddam had no WMD's why was he defying the UN?
2) If everyone including dims say he for sure had WMD's, where are they?
Absolutely Adequate wrote:-- Developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator.
wrveres wrote:Now I realize that there is Iraqi civilans that share a different philosphy about there country. Heck we have them here on this very forum. But you don't see me standing behind a school girl with my rifle at taking pot shots at a passing AA. You don't see me setting up explosives on the side of the road and setting them off, irregardless of what family is passing by. You don't see me taking reporters and stringing them up from a bridge. The simple fact that you are trying to compare a "Terrorist", yes that is what they are, to an american military man is disgusting.
Transmogrifier wrote:Is this not "nurturing the misconception"? (And I should point out that I said Bush administration, not Bush.)BBC wrote:As recently as last Sunday, Vice-President Dick Cheney, refused to rule out a link between Iraq and 11 September, saying "'we don't know".
"We will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who've had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3118262.stmMR. RUSSERT: The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. I think it’s not surprising that people make that connection.
MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don’t know. You and I talked about this two years ago. I can remember you asking me this question just a few days after the original attack. At the time I said no, we didn’t have any evidence of that. Subsequent to that, we’ve learned a couple of things. We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the ’90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization.
We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of ’93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven.
Now, is there a connection between the Iraqi government and the original World Trade Center bombing in ’93? We know, as I say, that one of the perpetrators of that act did, in fact, receive support from the Iraqi government after the fact. With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop anymore of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know.
MR. RUSSERT: We could establish a direct link between the hijackers of September 11 and Saudi Arabia.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: We know that many of the attackers were Saudi. There was also an Egyptian in the bunch. It doesn’t mean those governments had anything to do with that attack. That’s a different proposition than saying the Iraqi government and the Iraqi intelligent service has a relationship with al-Qaeda that developed throughout the decade of the ’90s. That was clearly official policy.
Cheney has since backpedaled, of course, lying about his previous claims:
Just two weeks ago, on on CNBC, the following exchange occurred between Cheney and host Gloria Borger:Borger: Well, let’s get to Mohamed Atta for a minute because you mentioned him as well. You have said in the past that it was, quote, “pretty well confirmed.”
Cheney: No, I never said that.
Cheney: I never said that.
Borger: I think that is…
Cheney: Absolutely not. What I said was the Czech intelligence service reported after 9/11 that Atta had been in Prague on April 9 of 2001, where he allegedly met with an Iraqi intelligence official. We have never been able to confirm that nor have we been able to knock it down.
But on December 9, 2001. Cheney told NBC News’ Tim Russert this:Cheney: Well, what we now have that’s developed since you and I last talked, Tim, of course, was that report that–it’s been pretty well confirmed that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack. Now, what the purpose of that was, what transpired between them, we simply don’t know at this point, but that’s clearly an avenue that we want to pursue.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... ge=printer
Sorry for the delay, it took some research.
(AAAH, I just saw on SportsCenter that Cheney was at the Yankee game, with a Yankee hat on!)
LionsandTigersOhMy wrote:You guys are impossible. I am going to go wash my Hummer. Then I am going to eat a dinner of Filet Mignon cooked by my personal chef and served by my butler. Then I am gonna sit down in front of my movie screen TV and watch the Sox and Yanks in my 3000 dollar recliner that has a pelt from a Tiger that suffered horribly when I hunted it. Then I am going to go outside and spray a case of hairspray I bought with my Visa Platinum card into the air. See I had to special order the kind thats harmful to the enviroment. Then I am going to sit in glee and stair at my bank statements and health care info ( its good insurance trust me). Then I am going to watch the hobos and poor die in the streets. Then I will go downstairs and polish my collection of assault weapons. Then finally I have to send GW another check to make sure he has all the support he needs to keep this country on the right track!
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