Lofunzo: Renteria will be batting 2-5 regularly? Excuse me? Guess what. He didn't get moved down to 6 or 7 recently. He started off the season at 6 and has seen some 7 I believe. They've Womack leading and Anderson often second. Then they have their good batters batting 3-4-5. Now, I don't disagree with you in that Renteria may bat 2nd again later this season or next year, he is a 2nd in the lineup type hitter. But I do feel the need to point out that it has not been happening this season. Now, if you'd bat Renteria 5th with his power, you're either a bad manager or managing a bad team... (or Edgar's pounding out a career year in terms of gap power like last season, and warranting you placing him there).
rmeesign: Look at the stats you posted. The only one I specifically referenced in my comparison was slugging percentage, and Tejada's is 60 points higher career. That is huge. What it means, basically, is that for him to knock in runs even remotely as effectively as Tejada he needs a much higher BATTING AVERAGE in a given season because each hit he gets is likely to drive in less runs than a Tejada hit. Edgar Renteria hit .330 last year. .330 is a huge outlier among Renteria's career batting stats. Its extremely UNLIKELY that a .288 career hitter will consistently hit .330. And hitting .330 is what a guy with very limited power needs to do to knock in runs. Someone in this thread has compared him to Jeter. Guess what, Jeter is better, and a reason Jeter is better is that he has hit well over .300 multiple times. Theres a much greater chance of him reaching that meaty .300+ area than there is of Renteria reaching it. (now, I'm not saying Jeter is the player to pick going forward. Maybe he's over the hill. I have no idea. All I'm saying is, is that he's a different TYPE of player, he is a better average hitter. He just is. So be careful when any of you guys compare him to Renteria...). Back to the Tejada comparison that I obviously was not clear about, as evidenced by the absurd degree to which it was misconstrued. The comparison indicates this: Tejada can have an average season where he hits .275 or so, and because of his high slugging percentage and home runs will still drive in a lot of runs. Renteria needs to bat WAY ABOVE his career numbers to drive in runs. Slugging percentage isn't a category in my league. Its just a stat I used to differentiate the two players in order to clear up a poor comparison by a previous poster. Homers are a category in my league. The differences between Tejada and Renteria in these two categories help explain their likelihood of performing in another category that is counted in my league: RBI. Just check that stats boys. Renteria has topped 100 once and has come vaguely close to it only one other time. To top it again, he needs to have ANOTHER career year. Its unlikely he will consistently have career years. If you think he will, then come out and say it. Just don't EXPECT him to based on the type of player he is.
Now, I don't hate Renteria. I happen to have Arod so I wouldn't start him at short, but if I didn't have a top tier ss, I wouldn't feel bad starting Renteria there. What I'm basically criticizing isn't Renteria himself. Theres no reason for me to do that because his abilities as a baseball player are laid out in black and white. What I'm criticizing are the comcially lofty expectations of people regarding Renteria. He isn't as good as many of you think he is. And theres no logical reason for you guys to think he's as good as you do. Now, a lot of the reason I'm saying this is from my person experience. As I've said before, I saw Renteria get drafted no later than the third round and as early as the first. This was a great source of mirth for me and other gms in these leagues. He isn't that good, guys. Now maybe in your leagues Renteria went in the mid-rounds. Thats ok. If he did, he probably wasn't overvalued. The guy is not completely worthless. He can start on a fantasy baseball team. But he's not the top tier player people make him out to be. He just isn't.
But if you're one of the people who took Edgar very early, and who expect Edgar to start lighting it up, get your facts straight. Say that you expect Edgar to continue to have career years and hit .330. Say that you expect him to consistently show the running ability he showed early in his career. Say you expect the Cards to bat him higher in the order. Say that you want, and expect these things to happen, NOT that they SHOULD HAPPEN based on the player Edgar Renteria is. Because they shouldn't. And theres no logical reason for anyone to think that they should.