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Cornbread Maxwell wrote:I think that to say the only addiction that is substantial is chemical is wrong.
Transmogrifier wrote:Oh, Wkelly, you pulled me in. I debated whether to do this, as I don’t have much time. But I feel ignorance like this can’t be ignored and should be challenged. Maybe at least you’ll stop generalizing liberals like that. I’m a liberal, and I bet you couldn’t find one person who knows me to say that I’m unintelligent.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love those who agree with them.
Liberals Hate those who dis-agree with them.
This one the board liberals have already proven. They cannot come up with one good thing to say about any conservative, a hallmark of the close-minded.
What part of my statement says Liberals are unintelligent? You obviously are intellegent.
After 9/11 Bush did a masterful job of pulling the country together and being resolute. Unfortunately, he’s taken many wrong turns since then.
The war on terror I would say no. Raising the federal budget, yes.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love anyone but Bush
Liberals Hate George W.Bush
Liberals have this rabid fixation on GW and they would vote for Jerry Spinger if it meant GW would be gone. Some of the quotes I've read border on ludicrous such as moving to France if GW gets elected. I didn't agree with Bill Clintons view of America but I'm certainly not stupid enough to move to France. I do however encourage all you socialists who want to change America into a socialistic state...please feel free to leave.
I would vote for pretty much anyone over Bush. Does this mean I think Bush is a worse person than Hitler? Absolutely not. Or even consider him the worst president ever? No, but he’s close.
That's a mouthful and even helps to support what I stated.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love people to be reliant on their handouts.
Liberals Hate the self-reliant.
We have had 50+ years of Democratic domminance in American politics with numerous failed policies such as the war on poverty. An enourmous ammount of wealth has been transfered from the productive to the non-productive and we have more families under poverty than ever before. It doesn't work. Democrats claim the want to help these people yet they never rise above poverty, generation upon generation is perpetuated and will continue to vote for the politicians who send them a check.
I pay a lot of taxes. I’m ok with that. I recognize that. I keep voting for people that generally raise taxes. Why? Because I’m white, grew up in a good household, with two parents, and understand how lucky I was. Make me a minority and put me in Southeast DC, and no matter how smart I am, I still have trouble getting out of there. We really underestimate the impact of our environment.
I think that is an absurd comment. How many people emigrate of have emigrated to this country and have become millionaines when they arrived with nothing but the shirts on their backs? In the 70's many vietnamese arrived in this country with nothing and have taken advantage of the American Dream and are now highly succesful. Using the environment argument is a crutch. Read "Think Big" by Dr. Ben Carson the formost neuro-surgeon in the world and an African American. He started off in the slums of Detroit.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love taxes.
Liberals hate tax cuts.
The tax code is a mess. If you liberals want fair taxation impose a flat tax, or a national sales tax, but you won't do this...why? The dirty secret is that the top 5% already pay over 50% of all taxes. All the precious liberal tax programs would collapse if the top wage earners suddenly decided to stop pursuing wealth. This class warfare that liberals are constantly promoting is total hypocracy. Most of the liberals in Washington are multi millionaires and make every effort to use the tax code to their benefit as well. Several years ago Bill Clinton took tax deductions on USED underwear when he was in office! Liberals want taxes because they can use it as a tool to control peoples behavior. Can any of you educated liberals please tell me what an "Earned income tax credit" is? People who pay NO taxes get a refund????
I hate taxes, yet I understand the importance of them. I think Bush’s tax cuts are absurd, pushing us into an enormous deficit.
Calling it class warfare degrades the issue. You want a flat tax? You will continue to keep people in poverty. This can be avoided by creating a threshold before taxation begins. The progressive tax system allows those who are making little money get by while they build equity and move onto new jobs, then they pay back to the system.
So, liberals try to get everything out of the tax code yet are millionaires (A HUGE overstatement, by the way). So, what does that make of the rich conservatives that are cutting their own taxes? Or John Kerry, who is very wealthy through his wife—he’s raising his taxes. Your statements have no basis in fact.
What I am saying is that BOTH parties take advantage of the tax code, but the Democrats won't admit it. They only want to blame Republicans.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love to criticize the intelligence of conservatives.
Liberals hate to admit americans can think for themselves.
Reagen=senile, Quayle=stupid and immature(even though was older than Clinton), Dole=old, senile, GW Bush=stupid. You liberals love to call all conservatives narrow-minded and stupid, I challenge you to look into GW's education (You can't fly fighter planes worth millions of dollars if your an idiot)
I think it’s the conservatives here that are criticizing my intelligence. And, for the record, I think Bush is a lot smarter than people give him credit for. But the manner in which he got into the best schools in the country with bad grades and got into the National Guard in Texas without going through the standard waiting period is a problem endemic to elites in this country—both liberals and democrats. truewkelly91 wrote:Liberals love all minorities that agree with them.
Liberals hate those who don't use their status as a crutch.
Just ask any conservative african-american (Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condi Rice) if they arn't called sellouts and uncle toms...sad.
I have enormous respect for all the people you mentioned. I disagree with most of them, although Powell and I agree a lot more than Bush and I do.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love all religions that conform to their world view.
Liberals Hate conservative Christians.
The ACLU will stand for all religious groups, but are strangely silent when Christians are getting their rights trampled. Why is that?
I’m not going to get into religion here, but Christians “rights” aren’t being trampled.
They are and if you want to read a link I will send it. There are instances such as kids being forbidden to have prayer clubs after school while all other groups are allowed to do so.Iwkelly91 wrote:Liberals love free speech as long as it is agreeable to them.
Liberals hate free speech.
Liberals want to shut down talk radio because it is the home of conservatives. They have tried to legislate this with little luck so far. They want to say that talkshow hosts like Rush Limbaugh incite Hate and that is why they must be shut down. Anyone who is willing to listen to Rush for a week or two would not be able to find one example of Hate speach unless taken out of context.
Trying to shut down talk radio? Sorry. That’s absurd.wkelly91 wrote:Liberals love hypocracy.
Liberals Hate the resolute.
(See John Kerry) "I don't own an SUV" "My family owns it"
Politicians love hypocrisy, if you want to go there. True
If we want to talk about hypocrisy, how about conservatives who think Catholics who support pro-choice issues should not get communion? Well, then keeping with church doctrine, Catholics who support the death penalty and the war in Iraq also can get communion. The pews will be empty.
I am not a catholic so I can't comment on their religion, but I would disagree with your statement that all conservatives agree with that...I don'twkelly91 wrote:Liberals love regulation.
Liberals Hate freedom.
I would venture to guess none of you liberals own businesses and have experienced the riduculous excessive government regulations that force many small business owners to shut their doors.
I don’t own a business, but I know many people who do. Many liberals believe that regulation is necessary when the market fails, and it does fail a lot (Adam Smith wasn’t perfect),
I stated in my follow-up "excessive regulation" which I should have put in the original. Just ask loggers out west who are out of jobs dur to the "spotted owl" which has been proven not to be endangered.
So, I tackled all your issues, absurd or not. Overall, I think you’re lumping all liberals together with the worst liberals. I don’t lump all conservatives with Anne Coulter. You shouldn’t lump all liberals with Michael Moore.
Let me clarify something, I do not equate all Democrats with Liberals or all Republicans with conservatives. Michael Moore is a fringe Liberal, he isn't even close to being mainstream. I would equate him to David Duke rather than Ann Coulter.
You are absolutely correct about Bush's spending and what appears to be the Repulican strategy to spend Democrats out of power. That is not consevative. If it wern't for our countries need to have a strong, resolute president to get us through the war on terror I would vote Liberitarian.
One more thing, I edited out some of the areas where I did not dis agree with your statements. I was not trying to censore your statements.
A reminder: Let's keep this civil.
wkelly91 wrote:Transmogrifier wrote:I would vote for pretty much anyone over Bush. Does this mean I think Bush is a worse person than Hitler? Absolutely not. Or even consider him the worst president ever? No, but he’s close.
That's a mouthful and even helps to support what I stated.
Transmogrifier wrote:And, frankly, I get so mad when people say liberals are bad Americans or are unpatriotic. It's such trash.
Transmogrifier wrote:I see a difference between endorphins and drugs. Would you make the claim that addiction--whether crack, nicotine or stealing cars--is the same? I don't.
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