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if Nolan Ryan was so great, why did he never win a Cy Young in his 27 seasons?
frog99 wrote:LCBOY wrote:There is one thing missing here. Pedro has yet to enter his decline phase of his career. Once he does enter this phase of his career, his traditional numbers and his saber-numbers will decline.
like how Randy Johnson's Roger Clemen's numbers have declined?
Los Angeles Cubs wrote:7 no hitters and all time leader in strikeouts.
frog99 wrote:Los Angeles Cubs wrote:7 no hitters and all time leader in strikeouts.
that was the problem with Ryan, the whole point of a pitcher is to keep men off base, and prevent runs from scoreing. Ryan didn't do that, he kept you from getting hits, but was willing to let you walk as long as you did not get a hit(by far the alltime leader in BB). That is why the 7 no -hitters, but zero perfect games. It is also the reason for the high (im using era+, since it is the only way to compare different generations) ERA, and low winning percentage.
Los Angeles Cubs wrote:I still dont see why Nolan Ryan isnt in here.
wkelly91 wrote:Los Angeles Cubs wrote:I still dont see why Nolan Ryan isnt in here.
And here is an interesting fact... Ryan has roughly 1000 more walks that Phil Neikro Phil Neikro was a knuckle-baller
la dodgers wrote:DRYSDALE for sure and i think its immoral to not have ryan on this list so he had a few walkds big deal hes one of the greatest pitchers of all time and he was a great baseball player and he was tough as nails and u say well what does that have to do with pitching ALOT he had it all and u think he isnt one of the best pitchers cuz he walked a few guys BIG DEAL
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