KULCAT wrote:.The contract situation "might" motivate him? But what about the other couple hundred in the same situation. Might it motivate them? The point is, considering all the players in the final year of the contract, many of them will do very well this year. Saying that the cause of that is the contract situation is a logical fallacy
Oh yeah i forget about those couple of hundreds SS looking for a 12-14 million dollar long term contract and that were ones one of the elite players in the game yet were being shopped around by their team to get a player that basically lobbied to steal their job and makes 3 times than all of them. This is were your logiv fails big time. Its not the same is it?My point was not that Sparky Anderson is ill-equipped to speak about baseball, but just because he knows a lot about baseball doesn't mean he's right.
No it doesnt, maybe his wrong. But you put up his word against the one of some faceless poster who i dont know anything about well its not really a tough decision for me.
For example, Joe Morgan, an avowed baseball expert, stated repeatedly that Billy Beane wrote Moneyball.The facts refuting Anderson's comments are clear an undeniable.
says who? Listen im getting pretty sicked of watching how people here talk about baseball players as video games players or robots. You people have absolutely no respect for the mental aspect of baseball. That just shows me that after years of playing fantasy baseball you dont know much about the game but you do know a lot about stats. Ive been playing fantasy baseball for 6 years and ive gotten to know a lot about OBP´s and OPS and Bpi´s etc. But what i know about baseball i learned by playing semi pro bowl in panama and venezuela. Some comments you have made like the 2º inning is worth the same as the 9º inning would get you laughed at in a dogout. thats just not the way baseball is played. When you played baseball you look for anything to motivate you. Usually fighting for you job does that. The way you talk about it is like there are no such things as intimidation by a pitcher. Or that when you are on a streak your not thinking about you splits vs right handed hitters, youre thinking you own anyone outthere. There are a million thing people like you cant explain in baseball. Why did the angels won the world series? Make an statistical analysis of that team and tell me why didnt the Yanks beat them? Why does a team that wins 118 games does not win the world series?
Same thing with clutch argument. i mean, you gonna tell me a ball player is not think about how big the 9º inning of a game is just because you say the early innings are played exactly the same way. Crank up all the numbers that you want pal, thats just not true.[/quote]
First off, please keep this civil.
Second, you are impossible to argue with. You don't believe in numbers. If I show you that X number of players are in the contract year, and show you five that excelled, you think that's proof. You don't believe numbers. If I show you that X player bats .300 over his career and then bats .300 in the playoffs, yet that person gets one key hit, you remember that key hit and call him clutch. Derek Jeter is the prime example, a player who has played below his standards in the playoffs, yet is regularly refered to as clutch.
But I've argued this many many times here.