ajgdrummer7 wrote:Bukoski77 wrote:I dont believe there should be an * bye any records, as has been stated steroids werent against baseball's rules until recently. I know alot of people have an its "agaisnt the law, so its cheating in baseball......." take on it. Baseball is played primarily in the U.S. but draws its talent from the entire world. In many countries where players come from steroids arent illegal, and if they werent illegal in baseball, its kind of hard to point the moral finger. I can gamble all I want 12.5 miles off U.S. water in a boat and the government has no problem with it.
Finally I say there should be no *'s simply because if you dont think MLB as a whole ignored the steroid use for the last 10 years you are just refuseing to face reality. I admit I dont have a smokeing gun that proves several high ups in the MLB community were aware of it, but I have common sense. Baseball could have put their foot down years ago and attempted to regulate it just like the NFL does. It wouldnt have stop it but it could have kept the record books a little cleaner when players got caught years later. Baseball as a whole chose to ignore it, now the records and #'s should stand.
Decent point except for the fact that Bonds, Giambi and Sheffield are all American.
Giambi is jacked and looks like a monster but I don't feel that he's guilty as much as I do for Bonds. Giambi doesn't hit 70 homeruns or just put on ridiculous displays as Bonds has. Giambi isn't over 35 and still crushing the ball with each swing. Giambi is in his early 30's and hitting just around 40 homeruns. The same is done by Jim Thome, Richie Sexson, Brian Giles, Lance Berkman, and many, MANY more.
Maybe I'm a little partial to Giambi but it doesn't seem like he's that guilty to me.
Thanks dude. I was trying to leave any specific players off the name list, more just arguing all records as a whole should stand. But in regards to those three being Americans, I have smoked marijuana in Mexico and Amsterdam, it was legal. Where getting a little too hypothetical.............but if they did their roids off shore?