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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby The Artful Dodger » Wed May 28, 2014 9:41 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:Don't own him in any leagues, but I'm curious how people are valuing Dee Gordon after a pretty awful May (minus the SB). Hit only .231/.297/.278 in the month. Obviously he'll have value as long as he's leading off, but who knows how long he'll be leading off if he continues hitting like this.


Unless he drags himself into a huge slump, Gordon will continue to carry substantial value. His approach has improved greatly. In prior years, he would just hit into popups and this year, Dee has been better at putting the ball in play for liners and grounders. Also, he just seems stronger with the added muscle.

The Guerrero bust-up with Olivo reduces any near-term threat of Guerrero being promoted. The new call-up, Erisbel Arruebarrena doesn't figure to steal time either.

I'm not a Gordon owner either, but my perception is he would cost a very good pitcher (think Tanaka) or a very good bat (think Ortiz) in straight up trades.
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby The Artful Dodger » Wed May 28, 2014 10:14 pm

Nelson Cruz, you wonderful beast, you.
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby ayebatter » Thu May 29, 2014 1:54 am

The Artful Dodger wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:Don't own him in any leagues, but I'm curious how people are valuing Dee Gordon after a pretty awful May (minus the SB). Hit only .231/.297/.278 in the month. Obviously he'll have value as long as he's leading off, but who knows how long he'll be leading off if he continues hitting like this.


Unless he drags himself into a huge slump, Gordon will continue to carry substantial value. His approach has improved greatly. In prior years, he would just hit into popups and this year, Dee has been better at putting the ball in play for liners and grounders. Also, he just seems stronger with the added muscle.

The Guerrero bust-up with Olivo reduces any near-term threat of Guerrero being promoted. The new call-up, Erisbel Arruebarrena doesn't figure to steal time either.

I'm not a Gordon owner either, but my perception is he would cost a very good pitcher (think Tanaka) or a very good bat (think Ortiz) in straight up trades.



I'd probably wouldn't trade him if I had him 'cause I be afraid he'd probably steal another 100 bases and I probably wouldn't trade for him 'cause he'd probably crash and burn. ;-)
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby ayebatter » Thu May 29, 2014 1:55 am

Jordan Zimmerman is broken.
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby wrveres » Thu May 29, 2014 5:05 am

ayebatter wrote:Jordan Zimmerman is broken.
yeah. and Keuchel is cy young. welcome to bizarro baseball.
anybody wanna discuss luck versus skill now?
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby Izenhart » Thu May 29, 2014 7:17 am

wrveres wrote:
ayebatter wrote:Jordan Zimmerman is broken.
yeah. and Keuchel is cy young. welcome to bizarro baseball.
anybody wanna discuss luck versus skill now?


sure.

If I'm not in first, its luck. If I am its skill

/discussion
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby wrveres » Thu May 29, 2014 8:26 am

rjforlife wrote:
wrveres wrote:aint nobody selling springer now ....


I can get him for a fair price. His average still is going to hover around .250-.260 and 1/3 on SB attempts isn't doing him any favors. He really has to hit a lot of HR to keep his value up. He should develop nicely over the years but I still think he can be had fairly if you sell his down points.
im not selling now. im in that "'what if" mode.
heres some classic uncle bill logic for ya ... ;-)

Junior Circuit.
West Coast summer is already a hot one
Singleton is coming.
Atuve can hit a little,
Castro can hit a little
Fowler can hold his own ..
And Springer just had an effing brilliant May.
Check back July 1.
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby wrveres » Thu May 29, 2014 8:36 am

Izenhart wrote:
wrveres wrote:
ayebatter wrote:Jordan Zimmerman is broken.
yeah. and Keuchel is cy young. welcome to bizarro baseball.
anybody wanna discuss luck versus skill now?


sure.

If I'm not in first, its luck. If I am its skill

/discussion
its quite possible im just that good
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby bigh0rt » Thu May 29, 2014 9:38 am

The best players on my team over the last 30 days...
Batter - Brian Dozier
S. Pitcher - Dallas Keuchel
R. Pitcher - Sean Doolittle

Is this real life?

EDIT: 2nd best of each...
Batter - Melky Cabrera
S. Pitcher - Julio Teheran
R. Pitcher - Tyler Clippard

Why do I even draft? Teheran was a keeper, and I got the other 5 in FA...
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Re: 5/26 - 6/1 CHEERING & VENTING

Postby ayebatter » Thu May 29, 2014 10:21 am

Thursday, May 29th

AL


Texas Rangers at Minnesota Twins
(R) Nick Martinez (1-1) vs. (R) Samuel Deduno (1-3)

Detroit Tigers at Oakland Athletics
(R) Rick Porcello (7-2) vs. (R) Jesse Chavez (4-2)

Kansas City Royals at Toronto Blue Jays
(R) James Shields (6-3) vs. (R) R.A. Dickey (5-4)

Baltimore Orioles at Houston Astros
(R) Ubaldo Jimenez (2-6) vs. (R) Brad Peacock (1-4)

LA Angels of Anaheim at Seattle Mariners
(R) Matt Shoemaker (2-1) vs. (R) Brandon Maurer (1-3)

IL


Atlanta Braves at Boston Red Sox
(L) Mike Minor (2-3) vs. (R) Jake Peavy (1-2)

NL


New York Mets at Philadelphia Phillies
(R) Zack Wheeler (1-5) vs. (R) David Buchanan (1-0)

San Francisco Giants at St. Louis Cardinals
(R) Ryan Vogelsong (3-2) vs. (L) Jaime Garcia (1-0)

Cincinnati Reds at Arizona Diamondbacks
(L) Tony Cingrani (2-4) vs. (R) Josh Collmenter (3-2)

Pittsburgh Pirates at Los Angeles Dodgers
(R) Gerrit Cole (4-3) vs. (R) Dan Haren (5-3)
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