Skin Blues wrote: bigh0rt wrote:
SpecialFNK wrote:Donaldson is good, but MVP? really?
I don't see any statistic that is outstanding.
15th in R. 14th in H. 13th in D. 20th in HR. 10th in RBI. 10th in AVG. 6th in OBP. 9th in SLG. 7th in OPS.
He was arguably one of the best defensive 3B in baseball last season. Via FanGraphs he posted a 7.7 WAR, ahead of Cabrera's 7.6, and trailing only Andrew McCutchen (8.2) and Mike Trout (10.4). Again, 18 months from now nobody will even remember who the AL MVP was (off the top of my head I can't remember the AL MVP from any specific year prior to 2012... I'm pretty sure Josh Hamilton won one, but I don't know if it was 2011 or 2010, or if maybe he didn't even win one at all -- and I follow baseball more than most). It's a silly award that I just don't care about. Give it to one of the top guys on the season and let's move on. Splitting hairs amongst the Top 5 or so is silly, since next week we'll have a new metric, or an updated formula, that rearranges their order of value, so we can get gung ho about a different guy instead.
This is the internet, we can analyze the most trivial things, lets be honest. There's a thread for this so why not actually discuss it instead of passing it off as insignificant? As if fantasy baseball has significance! Almost nothing on this website will be worth remembering in 18 months, but hell, we can still argue about it all until that point comes.
Maybe I'm just tired of it having had it here for the better part of the last decade. Also, as long as somebody in the 'argument' is sitting there shouting "Player X had the highest WAR so he is clearly the MVP and that is that" it's not really an argument. I like the metric as a tool as much as the next guy, but as I said previously, differentiating between the Top 5 of so guys is typically splitting hairs, and probably enough error in the formula(s) to be negligible. Beyond that, unless there's a runaway winner, it's just the same recycled thread over and over again, like Groundhogs Day. Until a new metric comes about that we all find shiny and perfect. Then just replace VORP with WAR with whatever the next acronym is. I don't mean to discourage others from participating in this. By all means. Doesn't change the fact that I'm a pretty serious baseball fan and can't name, with certainty, a single AL MVP in the last 5 or 6 years other than Miguel Cabrera -- meanwhile I'm sure during that time we were having this same argument over who should've won versus who was going to or ultimately did win. That's all.