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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby Havok1517 » Fri May 31, 2013 5:54 pm

AussieDodger wrote:
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Heath Bell, Rafael Betancourt, Jason Motte to name a few.
J.J. Putz and Brad Ziegler were converted starters, but they were minor league relievers for a while. Of course there is also, Peter Moylan and Brendan Donnelly. and thats just recently.

Heath Bell was 26 when he was called up and had great AAA numbers. Motte was 27 and had great AAA numbers. Putz spent only one season as a minor league reliever before being called up at age 27. Ziegler spent the vast majority of his minor league career as a starter. Peter Moylan quit baseball as a teenager and didn't return until he was 27 and almost immediately made it to the majors. Brendan Donnelly was good for a few years but has a career saves total of 6. Rafael Betancourt played in Japan and then quit baseball for a year before coming back in 2003 as a 28 year old, played in 4 games in AAA (the only 4 of his career) and then was quickly called up to the Indians. Given the thousands of relievers that have pitched in the minors since this list two decent players that both debuted over a decade ago, I'd say the odds are against a guy that is in his 6th season of AAA and is walking well over 5 batters per 9 innings. But I guess I'm just crazy. I suppose there's a 1 in a million chance he's the next Brendan Donnelly, though. There's hope!


Relievers have very unpredictable paths to becoming what they become. You can't judge them like SPs or hitters.


Just 2 more interesting ascensions to the closers. Mariano Rivera was a failed starter and didn't start reliving until age 26. Trevor Hoffman was drafted by the Reds as a shortstop then was chosen in the expansion draft by the Marlins and converted to a reliever. 1227 saves later... ;-D
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby footballisbetter.com » Fri May 31, 2013 6:47 pm

Rodney unavailable tonight. Peralta could vulture a save.
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby wingman3110 » Fri May 31, 2013 8:33 pm

footballisbetter.com wrote:Rodney unavailable tonight. Peralta could vulture a save.


Deemed unavailable as well
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby bali dawgs » Fri May 31, 2013 10:46 pm

Can any Anaheim homes tell me if there's been any talk about seeing what Coello can do at closer? Frieri, while getting the job done, is definitely hittable. Coello on the other hand seems to be quite dominant.

Also, if Janssen goes down in Tor. do y'all think it will be Delabar or Cecil who gets the next shot?

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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby AussieDodger » Fri May 31, 2013 11:09 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
AussieDodger wrote:
Relievers have very unpredictable paths to becoming what they become. You can't judge them like SPs or hitters.


Just 2 more interesting ascensions to the closers. Mariano Rivera was a failed starter and didn't start reliving until age 26. Trevor Hoffman was drafted by the Reds as a shortstop then was chosen in the expansion draft by the Marlins and converted to a reliever. 1227 saves later... ;-D


I love the ones like G.Perkins or Rivera, where they're prepared to try something different and the role fits them like a glove
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby SpecialFNK » Fri May 31, 2013 11:59 pm

Jose Valverde... BOOM!
0.2 IP, 4 ER.
this is what yahoo write up says.
Valverde entered in the ninth inning with a 5-3 lead after starter Max Scherzer retired the final 16 batters he faced.

Nick Markakis led off with a homer before Adam Jones singled and took third on a single by Chris Davis. Valverde (0-1) then retired Matt Wieters and J.J. Hardy on popups before Dickerson hit a 2-1 pitch into the bleachers in right-center, much to the delight of the sellout crowd of 46,249.

at least there were no walks. I guess that's a plus.
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby A Fleshner Fantasy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:11 am

SpecialFNK wrote:Jose Valverde... BOOM!
0.2 IP, 4 ER.
this is what yahoo write up says.
Valverde entered in the ninth inning with a 5-3 lead after starter Max Scherzer retired the final 16 batters he faced.

Nick Markakis led off with a homer before Adam Jones singled and took third on a single by Chris Davis. Valverde (0-1) then retired Matt Wieters and J.J. Hardy on popups before Dickerson hit a 2-1 pitch into the bleachers in right-center, much to the delight of the sellout crowd of 46,249.

at least there were no walks. I guess that's a plus.


His control was poor though. He fell behind Davis, which led to the hit, and he only avoided walking Hardy because he chased out of the zone and popped it up.
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby Norby » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:03 am

John Gibbons is an idiot. Why does he pitch Janssen on the road in a tie game in the 11th inning? Your closer shouldn't be coming in unless your team takes the lead in the top half of the inning, to actually CLOSE out the game.
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby SpecialFNK » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:31 am

Norby wrote:John Gibbons is an idiot. Why does he pitch Janssen on the road in a tie game in the 11th inning? Your closer shouldn't be coming in unless your team takes the lead in the top half of the inning, to actually CLOSE out the game.


maybe he's been busy smoking crack with Toronto mayor Rob Ford.
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Re: 2013 CLOSERS THREAD

Postby wingman3110 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:28 am

RT @FollowThePadres: Huston Street was unavailable due to a sore left calf. It's the same calf that landed him on the DL last season.


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