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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby jackie hayes » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:20 pm

Skin Blues wrote:Obviously this was negotiated ahead of time. You can't appeal a plea bargain.


Okay. But I'm not a lawyer, so I have to ask, does this really count as a "plea bargain"? I thought that was limited to criminal prosecutions, not private arbitration cases.

I've glanced at the CBA and the Joint Agreement in the past, but I don't remember if there is anything on 'side agreements' (like a player agreeing to not appeal a particular decision, in returns for the Commissioner not pursuing a harsher penalty). Anyone know?
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby jefferey13 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:30 pm

Matt Kemp gets his MVP award now?
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby Iggy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:50 pm

abrage22 wrote:This is why I take all the stuff on this site with a grain of salt, even if it comes from the more "knowledgeable", "expert" members.
"There's no way they could every suspend Braun" they said... "Draft him with no worries" they said...
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I agree ... I remember there was a poll as to 'who should be pick # 1' and many 'experts' said it was clearly Braun even though there were drug issues.

In one of my pools I lucked into the # 1 pick ... I took Cabrera
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby Frenchiegangsta9 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:41 pm

jefferey13 wrote:Matt Kemp gets his MVP award now?


Only if Jeter gets his...
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby kab21 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:48 pm

Braun's shenanighans don't even compare to ARod's shenanighans. He potentially bought Biogenisis documents to impede the investigation.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby Joe Mauer » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:00 am

kab21 wrote:Braun's shenanighans don't even compare to ARod's shenanighans. He potentially bought Biogenisis documents to impede the investigation.


Yeah...I think MLB wanted to Braun to be the first one nailed so he was front and center in shame. But Braun got out with nice fluffy quotes from MLB, etc, and a 65 game fine. He only would have done this if the writing was on the wall.

By making a big time player like Braun come to an agreement it should grease the wheels to getting other plea bargains done with most of the rest of the players over the coming days.

I think MLB will tread A-Roid differently. It has been reported that they have even more evidence on him....plus....if they have the evidence that he tried to impede the investigation.....then MLB is going to throw the book at him. Anything is possible and the penalty I think will be severe.

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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby rjforlife » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:49 am

Can they suspend Nelly Cruz tomorrow please? I'm against him this week and I don't want him hitting any more HR. ESPN radio said the rest of the suspensions are coming soon and all at once. What better day than tomorrow?
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby J35J » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:44 am

Iggy wrote:
abrage22 wrote:This is why I take all the stuff on this site with a grain of salt, even if it comes from the more "knowledgeable", "expert" members.
"There's no way they could every suspend Braun" they said... "Draft him with no worries" they said...
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I agree ... I remember there was a poll as to 'who should be pick # 1' and many 'experts' said it was clearly Braun even though there were drug issues.

In one of my pools I lucked into the # 1 pick ... I took Cabrera



Why anyone would blindly follow what anyone says is ridiculous...not even talking just fantasy sports, but everything. You should always be doing your own research on all topics no matter what the consensus is.
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Re: New Steroid Reports - gio gonzalez, nelson cruz

Postby Lofunzo » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:47 am

J35J wrote:
Iggy wrote:
abrage22 wrote:This is why I take all the stuff on this site with a grain of salt, even if it comes from the more "knowledgeable", "expert" members.
"There's no way they could every suspend Braun" they said... "Draft him with no worries" they said...
;-7


I agree ... I remember there was a poll as to 'who should be pick # 1' and many 'experts' said it was clearly Braun even though there were drug issues.

In one of my pools I lucked into the # 1 pick ... I took Cabrera



Why anyone would blindly follow what anyone says is ridiculous...not even talking just fantasy sports, but everything. You should always be doing your own research on all topics no matter what the consensus is.


I think (and hope) that he was kidding.
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