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Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:01 am
by beisbol4ever94928
Well, for those of you who frequent this forum, you all know I need a second baseman pretty bad. I have a surplus in pitchers.

So, league specs are 16 teams Dynasty format h2h.

Trade offer: Brandon Phillips and Justin Verlander

For: Stephen Strasburg, Cory Luebke and Delino Deshields

Phillips contract is 8m/8m/10m
Verlander is 16/16/16/16/16

Stras is 9/9/9/9/9
Luebke is 3/3/3
Deshields is 400k/600k/800k/1.2m/1.5m

I also have Cliff Lee (14/14/14/14), Zack greinke (10/10/10/10), Tim Lincecum (10/10/10/10), Peavy (2/2), Lohse (1.4), Ogando (3/3), Zach McAllister (400k/600k/800k/1.2m/1.5m) and Mike Montgomery (400k/600k/800k/1.2m/1.5m)

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:41 am
by Kimbos Beard
The actual value is there. If you are playing to win this year I would probably take the deal as I think it makes you better right now. But the money concerns me.
You will be taking on an additional $12 a year. How is that going to affect you in your draft?

In a 16 team league your pitching depth is studly.

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:54 am
by MaudDib
Yep this is a win now kind of deal. Long term I would rather have the Strasburg side. I think he will be pretty close in value to Verlander this year. Luebke will be fine this year but I see him taking a nice step forward next year. Deshields is a solid prospect with still some upside in what he may become.

But this year you solidify your 2B and you get the best pitcher in baseball. I think it is a solid deal and if you think you have a chance then do the deal. You may wish you never traded Strasburg at some point but if you win a championship with Verlander and Phillips, there won't be much room to complain.

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:41 pm
by LARS929
beisbol4ever94928 wrote:Well, for those of you who frequent this forum, you all know I need a second baseman pretty bad. I have a surplus in pitchers.

So, league specs are 16 teams Dynasty format h2h.

Trade offer: Brandon Phillips and Justin Verlander

For: Stephen Strasburg, Cory Luebke and Delino Deshields

Phillips contract is 8m/8m/10m
Verlander is 16/16/16/16/16

Stras is 9/9/9/9/9
Luebke is 3/3/3
Deshields is 400k/600k/800k/1.2m/1.5m

I also have Cliff Lee (14/14/14/14), Zack greinke (10/10/10/10), Tim Lincecum (10/10/10/10), Peavy (2/2), Lohse (1.4), Ogando (3/3), Zach McAllister (400k/600k/800k/1.2m/1.5m) and Mike Montgomery (400k/600k/800k/1.2m/1.5m)


I wouldn't do the deal...Keeping Stras locked up at 9 for the next 5 years (assuming I am reading it right) should be huge. Sure you need a 2B, but Stras could very well surpass Verlander this year and be the best pitcher in baseball. Also Deshields is a great sleeper prospect who could have a big impact. Maybe I am looking too far in the future, but I would rather have the Stras side.

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:49 pm
by jtsandwich
It seems there has to be some salary issues here. Sure you are better for this year from a straight trade perspective, but when you gain $12M in salary this season alone, you are going to suffer at your auction in a financial capacity. I would actually pass. Keep Stras and use the extra 12M you save to buy a better 2B. If you can't find a better 2B, that is ok as well, it's a 16 team league, everyone is going to be thin is a position or even 2. I would see how the auction turns out, then trade after if/when someone has a pitcher go down and is in massive need of a pitcher.

Could use your thought on one as well,

viewtopic.php?t=453645#p3570330

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:18 pm
by Brainstorm
jtsandwich wrote:It seems there has to be some salary issues here. Sure you are better for this year from a straight trade perspective, but when you gain $12M in salary this season alone, you are going to suffer at your auction in a financial capacity. I would actually pass. Keep Stras and use the extra 12M you save to buy a better 2B. If you can't find a better 2B, that is ok as well, it's a 16 team league, everyone is going to be thin is a position or even 2. I would see how the auction turns out, then trade after if/when someone has a pitcher go down and is in massive need of a pitcher.

Could use your thought on one as well,

viewtopic.php?t=453645#p3570330


Agree with pretty much all of this. Save your money for the auction and if it doesn't go well evaluate from there.

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:40 pm
by Element
I agree with waiting it out until after the draft. Perhaps adding a post-hype guy like Ackley is in the cards for you? It's not as sexy, but it could prove to be a savvy move in the end.

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:25 pm
by SLBarnes
I agree with a commenter above, are you in a position to win this season? If so take the deal. But if your unsure, then i'd sit on Stras.

Whats the rest of your roster like?

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:58 pm
by KELLYLEAK
I'd keep Strasburg unless you're concerned about him getting hurt again. Phillips is good, but is in his 30's and doesn't steal as much as he used to. I'd try and move Greinke if you want to trade a starting pitcher. I think he's good but overrated.

Re: Trade Advice? WHIR

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:20 pm
by jtsandwich
A cheap Ackley, I agree, you could do worse and he may surprise a few. If SEA can land Bourne, it would really help Ackley's #'s.