Skin Blues wrote:No, I said if you adjust his 2012 season then he gets a 4.10 ERA. I didn't say I expect that for 2013. I wouldn't just take a pitcher's 2012 output and assume it will remain unchanged for 2013.
Except you just made the claim (as ridiculous as it was) that if he was pitching in Kansas City in 2012 that he would have had a 4.10+ ERA considering competition, park factors, defense, etc. What's supposed to be the difference next year that will bring him down to a 3.80 ERA? Are you suddenly banking on him pitching better than he did in 2012? Something does not follow here.
My point is that James Shields is not the superstar you're making him out to be just because he was in the AL East.
He's an excellent pitcher. Has been for two seasons now. I don't believe where I've called him an "ace" or a "superstar," and I'm not entirely sure what those terms mean to you (or even to me). I would take him over every pitcher in the AL next season except Verlander, Felix, Price, and CC, though.
You overstate how good the offense has been in the East and for some reason have your head in the sand with regards to park factors and defense.
The offense in the East is regularly far better than in the Central (which isn't debatable unless you rather dishonestly take a one year sample size like 2012). And he'll almost certainly get a boost from having to pitch in a bunch of parks that limit HRs, his main issue, instead of the opposite (see Sarris' post).
The only question remains team defense and how much that will hurt him. I believe you've completely overstated just how bad KC is in that area, though. They have three excellent defensive players in Gordon, Moustakas, and Cain that they didn't have just a few years ago (well Gordon was there, just playing a bad 3B), a SS in Escobar who looks like he could be fantastic defensively at the position, and a catcher who is arguably among the best in the game defensively already in Perez. This isn't a team with a bunch of butchers in the field, they project to be quite good in this area going forward. Will Shields miss Zobrist, Longoria, and Tampa's defensive schemes? Sure. But the rest of the advantages that he's going to gain should more than make up for it especially if KC's team defense is as good as it appears it could be.