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Skin Blues wrote:I can see the other side of this... hold out for a better return than Aviles, and there are a couple likely outcomes: a) they cave and we get a better return b) they decline and we fire Farrell once they pick another manager. Both of those result in us not having John Farrell manage this team, and that's a good thing. So putting aside the "reputation" factor, whether you believe it's a good or bad thing to screw over Farrell or to bend to his whim even though he agreed to a contract, we could have gambled at losing Aviles in return for a shot at a better player(s). That alone might be enough to justify holding out.
Also, I don't really get this idea that Farrell would HAVE to be let go if we didn't let him go to Boston. He also wanted to go to Boston after Francona was fired, so how is it different? You can't just say that he doesn't want to be here so we have to get rid of him. By that logic, we had to get rid of him last season. Whether it's 1 or 2 years remaining on his secretive contract doesn't matter much, because I'm sure he would have re-upped with Toronto after he missed out on the Boston job for a second straight year. Especially if he knows that the alternative is being given sent packing without another job to run off to.
This is even worse because now the manager of a divisional rival that we will face 15 times next year will know more about our team than our own manager.
mweir145 wrote:Mike Aviles is worth a lot more than John Farrell. He does fill a need, as insignificant as it is. If I'm the GM of this team, I'm not going to sacrifice that (as well as another team taking my unwanted manager off my hands and my books) just to make things slightly more difficult on the Boston Red Sox and prevent a meaningless, short-term PR hit.This is even worse because now the manager of a divisional rival that we will face 15 times next year will know more about our team than our own manager.
That was the theory when they first hired Farrell. That he'd be able to give secrets about Boston and help the Jays beat them. How did that work out?
Mookie4ever wrote:Red Sox to get Torey Lovullo as well
Boston just told AA to get his shinebox
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