Skin Blues wrote:Looked clean to me. Rules-wise, anyway. It was a close play at first and the runner might have been out had he not taken Scutaro out. He's also one of their better hitters and obviously getting his bat out of the lineup is another bonus. Maybe not the most sportsmanlike thing to do but it's not against the rules and it's clearly beneficial for the Cardinals so it's hard to blame Holliday. With the rules as they are, this kind of thing will always happen, especially during the playoffs. Maybe say that if you're sliding into second on a force play you must slide to the inside of the base and the fielder can take the outside of the base. Pretty easy to enforce and doesn't really change anything, it's not like a runner is ever avoiding a tag when it's a force play, so the part of the base they slide into shouldn't matter
The rule is kind of silly in that it leaves a lot up to the ump discretion in what the runner's "intent" was. But no way in hell is Holliday's intent in this play to do anything but completely destroy Scutaro. Middle infielders are taught to stand behind the base and use it as a shield against the runner coming in that hard. When a guy jumps over the bag to break up the play, I think it can pretty easily be considered that his intent was not to reach and stay on the base, but to interfere with the fielder. It's umpires discretion, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
A runner who, in the judgment of the umpire, contacts or attempts to make contact with a fielder
with a slide or roll block that is not a bona fide effort to reach and stay on the base may be called
out for interference and, when appropriate, a double play may be called.
A batter is out when –
(m)A preceding runner shall, in the umpire’s judgment, intentionally interfere with a fielder who is attempting to catch a thrown ball or to throw a ball in an attempt to complete any play:
Rule 6.05(m) Comment: The objective of this rule is to penalize the offensive team for deliberate, unwarranted, unsportsmanlike action by the runner in leaving the baseline for the obvious purpose of crashing the pivot man on a double play, rather than trying to reach the base. Obviously this is an umpire’s judgment play.
PS- I've complained about how I think take-out slides are stupid before, so it's not like I'm just saying this because a guy on the Giants got hurt. Contact plays like this do not belong in the sport.