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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby Ender » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:43 pm

I'm selling high on him even harder than before after seeing them leave him out there for 121 pitches in just 5.1 innings. This is not gonna end well, mark my words.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby bayside » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:45 pm

What the **** is Collins doing even letting him start the 6th inning???
Unbelievable


In a redraft I'd be selling too, but in a keeper league where you can keep him ridiculously cheap, theres not really a good reason to sell imo.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby Ender » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:02 pm

bayside wrote:What the **** is Collins doing even letting him start the 6th inning???
Unbelievable


In a redraft I'd be selling too, but in a keeper league where you can keep him ridiculously cheap, theres not really a good reason to sell imo.



Oh definitely. Keeper pitching is iffy in general so if you can get someone like this at a low keep value it is one of the rare cases it is worth it.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby kab21 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:15 pm

I'm hitching my dynasty future to Harvey, Sale and Fernandez. Fernandez is still a wild card but stay away from by guys Dr. Andrews. STAY AWAY!
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby mac-unit » Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:22 pm

kab21 wrote:I'm hitching my dynasty future to Harvey, Sale and Fernandez. Fernandez is still a wild card but stay away from by guys Dr. Andrews. STAY AWAY!



You might want to move Sale before his trip to Dr. Andrews than. It's inevitable with his delivery and frame.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby kab21 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:41 am

mac-unit wrote:
kab21 wrote:I'm hitching my dynasty future to Harvey, Sale and Fernandez. Fernandez is still a wild card but stay away from by guys Dr. Andrews. STAY AWAY!



You might want to move Sale before his trip to Dr. Andrews than. It's inevitable with his delivery and frame.


The problem is that everyone is discounting him because of that in a trade. And it's a 24 tm league.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby Izenhart » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:38 am

kab21 wrote:
mac-unit wrote:
kab21 wrote:I'm hitching my dynasty future to Harvey, Sale and Fernandez. Fernandez is still a wild card but stay away from by guys Dr. Andrews. STAY AWAY!



You might want to move Sale before his trip to Dr. Andrews than. It's inevitable with his delivery and frame.


The problem is that everyone is discounting him because of that in a trade. And it's a 24 tm league.


Right. If I had Sale I'd ride his arm until it fell off. Even if everyone thinks it's a matter of when and not if, he may be very good for awhile. He's still young, and it's not like once a pitcher goes down with an arm injury their career is over. Strasburg came back and is still an ace.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby wingman3110 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:32 am

Matt Harvey – 5 1/3 IP, 1 ER, 9 baserunners, 7 Ks vs. the MIA Marlins. The Ks are real and they’re spectacular, but it’s not even May yet and he’s already starting to look human. Not to mention, throwing him for 121 pitches yesterday (yes, in only five-plus innings), Terry Collins must be taking classes at the Dusty Baker School of Pitch Management. Prof. Dusty, “For years, too many major league executives made imprudent and dangerous decisions, seeking bullpen arms with too little regard for risk and too little accountability. The very crisis our starters face now is not being able to pitch into the 6th inning. Our starters are being imported from other countries and everyone wants to talk pitch count. I call that the b*tch count.”


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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby Ender » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:43 am

Yeah just to be clear I don't have a huge issue with the 121 pitches if it were say going for a shutout and he had barely had any baserunners all game (though I still wouldn't have loved it). 121 pitches in 5 innings is criminal, if this is how they are going to handle their young pitchers they are going to ruin them.
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Re: Matt Harvey: Legit Ace?

Postby wingman3110 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:35 am

Ender wrote:Yeah just to be clear I don't have a huge issue with the 121 pitches if it were say going for a shutout and he had barely had any baserunners all game (though I still wouldn't have loved it). 121 pitches in 5 innings is criminal, if this is how they are going to handle their young pitchers they are going to ruin them.


Yeah that was kind of like a WTF :-? moment when I saw how many pitches he had in only 15 outs. It's April, don't kill the Mets fans only pride and joy now :-b
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