octagon999 wrote:Look at it another way; from a hitter's/manager's perspective. It's game 7 of the world series. Who's the last guy you want to see walk in the park and take the mound? I think Kershaw would be the name that pops in my head first.
This is irrelevant - Cy Young is not given to the one with the nastiest stuff or who you'd most want in a specific game, its who pitched best during this entire regular season.
Mookie4ever wrote:I wouldn't feel right voting for a knuckleballer.
Eh - I hate this logic/mindset/bias. Who cares how a guy is getting the job done? If anything a knuckleballer should be given bonus points - he's throwing a pitch 75 mph for cripes sake. By this logic, guys who rely heavily on a good breaking ball shouldn't win a Cy Young.
OBPlover wrote:Cueto deserves it and it's not even close.
Not even CLOSE???
How about the fact that Cueto has way fewer strikeouts than any of the guys being mentioned? And a significantly higher WHIP?
OBPlover wrote:Kershaw, Dickey, Bum, Cain = pitcher's park, in some of those cases, extreme pitcher's park. Doesn't matter a lick for fantasy. In fact, it's something to always look at when ranking pitchers. But in real life baseball, it's a major factor. Cueto - not a pitcher's park, a good hitter's park, a great one in terms of the long ball. But Cueto's HR/9 is one of the best in the NL. But the Reds' hitters get that additional opprtunity to get HRs to help the REDS win. Surely there is some point where park matters? If someone duplicated Kershaw's pitching stats last year but did so in Colorado, then that would have to be worth more would it not?
I think you are putting a little too much weight (and by a little, I mean a TON) on park factor. Cincinnati is not exactly Coors field circa 1995. Sure, if you want to give Cueto and Miley a small bump for pitching in a hitters field, and vice versa for the guys who pitch in poor hitters field, that's valid... but its not that huge of a factor.
I think the two best candidates right now are Kershaw and Dickey, but man, Strasburg's K-rate is ridonkulous.
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