bigh0rt wrote: I, like many, don't take ERA terribly serious. It'd be the equivalent of me saying that Gio and Strasburg have more Wins, so they're better. Namely, we haven't really shown anything with either statement. Ryan Vogelsong has a lower ERA than both Madison Bumgarner and Matt Cain, and few would argue he's the best pitcher on the staff in San Francisco. Hiroki Kuroda has a lower ERA than CC Sabathia; again, I don't think you'd argue that Kuroda's the best pitcher on the staff. While they were together in Chicago, Paul Maholm's ERA was considerably lower than Jeff Samardzija's, while Sammy was the superior pitcher without question. So, as I said, it could very easily be argued that Zimm has been the third best pitcher on his own team, nevermind the best pitcher in the entire National League. If you're awarding him the NL Cy Young, you might as well just give it to Vogelsong instead, cause he's been just as consistent, and just as good, and is probably also the third best pitcher on his own team; the fourth best if Tim Lincecum is up to snuff.
A couple things:
While I do agree that ERA shouldn't be the sole factor in determining the Cy Young winner, it bears a lot more consideration than wins (i.e. Felix winning the Cy with 13 wins). Generally a Cy Young winner has a very low ERA yet does not always have a great number of wins.
I think one can certainly make the argument that Kuroda has been the better pitcher in NY this season. Granted, I'd take CC in a playoff game 100 times out of 100, but Kuroda has just been better this year, if you're relying purely on the stats.
I don't know why you said "you might as well give it to Vogelsong instead," despite the fact that Zimmermann has been better. I just don't understand why you said that. To boot, Vogelsong's last start was an implosion that we've never seen in Zimmermann's entire career, let alone this season.
As far as the Nat's rotation goes, give me Zim in an important game over Gio and Stras any day. In my opinion, Gio shouldn't even be in the conversation, it's between Stras and Zim, and to be honest, Stras tends to get shelled from time to time, he'll have you on the edge of your seat with a much higher walk rate than Zim, and you don't really have to worry about those things when Zim is on the bump.
I just think that Zim has the combination of power and finesse that Stras just doesn't possess. Stras has the overpowering element, but sometimes that works against you. Zim has been an artist out there. He paints like no one else, at least this year.