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2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby converge241 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:28 am

And that's why I kept saying cant 100% go with Gregerson, and ideally if you had roster space to add both. Considering Thayer had problems at the end of his time pre Street return he's not exactly guaranteed either especially if gregerson keeps pitching so well

Luckily I was able to swap out Gregerson for Thayer in 2 leagues quickly before the save once black came out to get said saves in short term the third will just eat for a wire flyer for gregerson in the meantime roster space too tight to wait and see if thayer implodes (and not saying he will just that he has I like him owned him earlier but traded him off for help elsehwere). Coudlnt hold Street either with Desmond in one Dl spot so traded Street as a keeper to a rebuilder for Allen Craig

*too much team talk*

Anyway

Mil is a mess, makes the SD talk look like Rivera in his prime is in there... a few fantasy columnists have been pushing for Loe to get an extended look. Too bad he still doesnt have that SP/RP. Could just be a lot of mixing from brewers down the stretch until we see someone really run away with it, probably just Axford ends up back again full time
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby juliown1028 » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:21 pm

So...is this a sign just to stay away from Milwaukee completely?

Henderson blows one...so apparently no one can close it out for the Brew Crew...
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby NikkiSixx » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:35 pm

TitsMcGahee wrote:For now, would you rather have Jeremy Affelt or Dale Thayer? I am thinking of picking up Thayer.

Thayer for sure.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Maris09 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:46 pm

Per Rotoworld:
Henderson will continue to get save chances Brewers manager Ron Roenicke said Thursday that Jim Henderson will still get save opportunities.
Henderson blew another save Wednesday night against the Rockies and has now allowed five earned runs on 12 hits in 8 1/3 innings since his call-up. But the Brewers don't have many better options at the moment with John Axford and Francisco Rodriguez also struggling mightily. It's a big mess right now for fantasy owners.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby mt99808 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:07 am

Anybody have thoughts on the Mets situation? I'm holding FF on my bench and I'm dying for roster spots. With a month and a half to go is he even worth waiting on to turn it around? We've seen this story before both last year and this. He goes through these phases but they can last from up to a couple weeks to half a season.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Padsin05 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:31 am

at this point in the season, you gotta assume at best a closer is worth 10 saves. More then likely 8 or so. So if you need roster spots, and you are comfortable in your position, feel free to dump a loser like Francisco

In my situation I am 3rd in saves, with 98, above me is 141 and 115, the 141 is definitely out of reach, the 115 has 5 closers, as do I. just to make up the 17 save gap, my closers would have to all get 3.5 more saves then any of his closers, thats pretty tough to do. At the same time they guy below me has 84, but only running out 4 closers. So by looking at this, I was able to just flat out dump Henderson and that whole Milwaukee situation, and grab a better (whip/era) guy, and know I can comfortable stay in 3rd in saves. So I went ahead and looked to add a David Hernandez, Jason Grilli, Luke Gregerson type guy, guys with great k/9 under 2.50 1.10 whips, who might vulture a W somewhere down the stretch
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby cardsfan » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:55 am

Padsin05 wrote:at this point in the season, you gotta assume at best a closer is worth 10 saves. More then likely 8 or so. So if you need roster spots, and you are comfortable in your position, feel free to dump a loser like Francisco

In my situation I am 3rd in saves, with 98, above me is 141 and 115, the 141 is definitely out of reach, the 115 has 5 closers, as do I. just to make up the 17 save gap, my closers would have to all get 3.5 more saves then any of his closers, thats pretty tough to do. At the same time they guy below me has 84, but only running out 4 closers. So by looking at this, I was able to just flat out dump Henderson and that whole Milwaukee situation, and grab a better (whip/era) guy, and know I can comfortable stay in 3rd in saves. So I went ahead and looked to add a David Hernandez, Jason Grilli, Luke Gregerson type guy, guys with great k/9 under 2.50 1.10 whips, who might vulture a W somewhere down the stretch
Great advice. I dumped Francisco as I have no faith in the guy. Grabbed Rauch and just hope he gets a chance.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby SpecialFNK » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:14 am

Axford is back.
Brewers manager Ron Roenicke indicated after Tuesday's game that John Axford has been reinstated as the team's closer.
Axford got the final out in Tuesday's win over the Cubs after Manny Parra and Jim Henderson combined to allow two runs. "This is a guy we would obviously like to be in that closer role," Roenicke said about Axford. "And the reason we took him out of it is to try and do what's best for him to get back into that role. I think when he was out of it, I think he pitched well enough to allow us the confidence that we think we can put him back in there now." Axford has a 4.85 ERA and 12/6 K/BB ratio over 13 innings since he was originally pulled from the role in mid-July, so he's not exactly back to top form, but he's the pitcher to own in this bullpen right now in fantasy leagues.


Thayer also blew another save last night.
Called upon to protect a 5-3 ninth-inning lead, Dale Thayer blew his third save Tuesday against the Padres.
Tonight's outing isn't Thayer's fault; if Bud Black's desire is to continue to play with fire, he's going to get scorched. Rotoworld wouldn't dare stretch that cliché to include general manager Josh Byrnes, who would probably prefer, at this point, that his skipper juggles flames with late leads. After all, the Padres, 16 games below .500 entering the day, stand to acquire no worse than the third pick in next year's draft. Conspiracy theories aren't our thing. Pointing out that a 31-year-old journeyman reliever with a 4.43 career ERA shouldn't be protecting leads is. Regardless, until Huston Street returns, Thayer is roughly the 32nd-most valuable reliever in fantasy baseball.
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby datelin3 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:25 am

Called upon to protect a 5-3 ninth-inning lead, Dale Thayer blew his third save Tuesday against the Padres.


Gregerson is on an 18+ inning scoreless streak. Still think that Thayer would come in for the next save [probably not until Friday though]


*On a personal note, I am now a Frank Francisco owner: :-X
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Re: 2012 CLOSERS THREAD (2nd HALF)

Postby Skin Blues » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:40 pm

Stupid Thayer. The guy is garbage and I dumped Gregerson for him because of SD's ineptitude in recognizing their best reliever. Wasted FAAB and probably not gonna get anything out of him except a bunch of earned runs. Apparently it's a Romo-like situation where they don't want Gregerson to be the closer because he throws so many sliders.... sounds ridiculous, but perception is reality when dealing with fantasy... or something along those lines. How many more of these outings before they cave and give Gregerson a chance?
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