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Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:46 pm
by sigriffey
He just offered me this. Accept this deal, Counter or Pass? Pence in final keeper year; BJ Upton can be kept thru 2014. But we only keep 6 players anyway.

He gives me: Hunter Pence, Yovani Gallardo and Kyle Drabek
I give him: BJ Upton, Ricky Romero and Jordan Zimmermann


I think a counter may be in order. Any suggestions?


12 Team H2H DAILY LEAGUE with 6 Keepers Season to Season, each for 3 years max. * means a keeper entering this season
Stat Categories: R, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG -- IP, CG, W, L, ER, ERA, K, SV, WHIP



HIS TEAM

Y.Molina
B.Butler
J.Altuve
K.Seager
J.Lowrie
D.Jennings
A.Gordon
B.Harper
H.Pence
D.Ortiz
J.Jay
K.Johnson
BN E.Encarnacion, B.LaHair

I.Kennedy
Y.Gallardo
J.Beckett
V.Worley
A.Sanchez
E.Bedard
J.Garcia
D.Fister
BN K.Drabek, H.Alverez
DL C.Luebke


MY CURRENT TEAM (pending recent deal)

C Jesus Montero
1B Prince Fielder*
2B Dustin Pedroia*
3B Miguel Cabrera*
SS Hanley Ramirez*
OF Curtis Granderson
OF BJ Upton
OF Giancarlo Stanton
UT Adam Dunn
UT Eric Hosmer
UT Emilio Bonifacio
DL Jacoby Ellsbury
DL Carl Crawford


SP Clayton Kershaw
SP Cole Hamels
SP Matt Cain
RP Chris Sale
RP David Robertson
P Aroldis Chapman
P Addison Reed
P Brandon Beachy
BN Jordan Zimmermann
BN Ricky Romero
BN Drew Smyly
BN Jarrod Parker
BN Matt Harrison
DL Sergio Santos

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:52 pm
by chinch sacs
I think id try to swap out Zim for Harrison or Parker, but it isnt an overall bad deal for you. I almost always counter though, people seem to always aim a little high in random offers that fly over.

help?
http://www.fantasybaseballcafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=446682

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:01 pm
by sigriffey
UPDATE:

He proposed this --

I give: BJ Upton, Ricky Romero and Drew Smyly
I get: Hunter Pence and Yovani Gallardo

thoughts?

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:48 pm
by chinch sacs
sigriffey wrote:UPDATE:

He proposed this --

I give: BJ Upton, Ricky Romero and Drew Smyly
I get: Hunter Pence and Yovani Gallardo

thoughts?


I like this. ;-D

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:56 pm
by joeyg2323
sigriffey wrote:UPDATE:

He proposed this --

I give: BJ Upton, Ricky Romero and Drew Smyly
I get: Hunter Pence and Yovani Gallardo

thoughts?



idk upton gives you 20/20 and ricky ro IMO is the most under rated pitcher in baseball. and your giving up a stud young pitcher in smyly.

i like upton better then pence and ricky better then gallardo. You have a lot of ricky haters on here so i feel a lot will tell you to do it but i wouldnt.

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:59 pm
by sigriffey
joeyg2323 wrote:
sigriffey wrote:UPDATE:

He proposed this --

I give: BJ Upton, Ricky Romero and Drew Smyly
I get: Hunter Pence and Yovani Gallardo

thoughts?



idk upton gives you 20/20 and ricky ro IMO is the most under rated pitcher in baseball. and your giving up a stud young pitcher in smyly.

i like upton better then pence and ricky better then gallardo. You have a lot of ricky haters on here so i feel a lot will tell you to do it but i wouldnt.


Yeah, I mean I lean towards standing pat so this advice is much appreciated...

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:09 pm
by RyeWhiskey
I don't really see what you gain from this trade. In terms of value it's relatively fair, but you're just swapping positions so... unless you're winning big or getting a guy you really want, it's not really worth it.

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:14 pm
by sigriffey
Is there a counter that would make the deal worth it to me? I do somewhat like Pence's consistency over Upton given this is H2H and I am saddled with some low average streakers like Stanton, Dunn and Upton...

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:18 pm
by RyeWhiskey
sigriffey wrote:Is there a counter that would make the deal worth it to me? I do somewhat like Pence's consistency over Upton given this is H2H and I am saddled with some low average streakers like Stanton, Dunn and Upton...


Yes I agree with you here. Would be willing to swap Upton/Pence straight-up? Would you?

Re: Pence-Upton Blockbuster WHIR

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:22 pm
by sigriffey
AngryMonkey wrote:
sigriffey wrote:Is there a counter that would make the deal worth it to me? I do somewhat like Pence's consistency over Upton given this is H2H and I am saddled with some low average streakers like Stanton, Dunn and Upton...


Yes I agree with you here. Would be willing to swap Upton/Pence straight-up? Would you?


Well, Pence is in his final keeper year and Upton has 2 more after this, so it should be fair. And I doubt I keep him given my other options and the fact that I am strongly positioned for this year. But I know he fixates on pitchers I have too. He likes Jordan Zimmerman, Romero and Smyly in partic.

The way I see it, I gain singles, HR, 2B and consistency with Pence. I lose some BB and a fair amount of SB.

Thoughts on a way to make this work?