HOOTIE wrote:No nonsense at all.
Perez allows 4.26 W /9 over career.
You can't have a low K/9, walk 4 guys per 9, and not walk a tight rope.
Perez allows too many base runners, and in the long run, that will catch up to him.
Are you aguing just for the sake of arguing?
I even tried to make you see that 3 more baserunners in a season are not too many.
You compare Perez and Rivera when you shouldn't.
I know I brought up Rivera but for a different reason, that should have been clear, but you fail to realize even that.
HOOTIE wrote:The only reason his era was under 4 last year, was he got lucky on hr/fb ratio, 5.7%, versus career 8.1%
I see. Lucky HR/FB ratio. Fine. That should explain it then.
Oh wait, thats crap. He had that ratio for 2 seasons. Thats what people call consistency.
BTW he had worse BB/9 and HR/FB in 2010 and all he did is get the job done.
Yet when there is Pestano, there are questions.
And there was no questions about Marmol's BB/9 rate, when he was ranked as the #1 closer before last season. Oh Marmol has an incredible high K/9 rate, so theres no need to worry!
HOOTIE wrote:Cleveland lost the game.
Perez couldn't get 3 outs with a 3 run lead.
Perez didn't get the loss, but Cleveland lost the game, because of him.
And you are wrong again. Must be a habit.
Cleveland did not lose the game bacause of him. The correct way to put it, the Indians did not win the game because of him.
But I guess you fail to see the difference.
HOOTIE wrote:Rivera lost the game, but a 1 run save chance, isn't close to a 3 run save chance.
You can't compare them.
I did not compare them regarding this.
I brought up Rivera because of this:
HOOTIE wrote:I avoid closers who are at risk to blow up.
HOOTIE wrote:Check back at years end, and we will see how Perez ranks with the 29 other closers.
If Perez makes it that long.
No need to.
Even if Perez will be removed, as it can happen to anyone, as I proved in an earlier post, and will happen to several closers, your reasoning remains wrong.
And what we debating here is your reasoning.
HOOTIE wrote:What people really need to know is Perez is a bad closer, at this point in his career, who comes with a lot of risk.
And as you said it yourself, he is not ready yet. This blow up has nothing to do with anything else as far as Im concerned.
I wasn't debating any rankings if I can recall that correctly, so I have no idea why you brought this up. I think that those ranking are very useful for fantasy. Although I would put Perez in Tier 4.
BTW it seems like even Fangraphs thinks that Perez is a better option than Pestano at this point.
What you don't get is how real baseball managers are thinking. You see one blown save and panic, although you had a valid reasoning, when you mentioned he is not ready yet.
Yet you expect Acta to panic too, but when he doesn't, you call him gutless.
I say he remembers that this guy was good last year, and he deserves some support from his manager.
Yet, if he constantly fails to get the job done, he will be removed. But I said this earlier.
So I'll panic when I see more blown saves, which could happen since we can clearly see, that he isn't there, where he needs to be.
Oh well I guess I exaggerated a bit, cause I don't own Perez, but I have Pestano, and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, so I won't panic.