Managers name their closers, big deal?
A lot can change quickly.
I didn't say they were competing.
I said Nathan and Perez aren't that good, that each could lose their job, with a shorter leash then a good closer.
Syfo-Dyas wrote:Yes it's a big deal cus they don't have to pitch as well as the other guy. They only have to get the job done.
Managers don't care about FIP, xFIP or SIERA. They don't even know about these things.
Managers don't care about pitchers k/9.
They only care about results.
You say Nathan and Perez aren't that good.
But they proved it that they can get the job done.
Prior the 2010 season Broxton was ranked as the top closer by Yahoo.
He pitched lights out for 3 months. Then suddenly he couldn't get the job done.
He was out of job pretty fast.
The good closer gets the job done. Nothing more, nothing less.
Not sure what you are arguing here. Everyone agrees that Nathan and Perez have the job. But then you go on to point out that a closer can lose a job pretty quickly if he is ineffective. When you do fantasy, part of what you are doing is projecting what a pitcher will do, not what he has done. Perez has gotten the job done but hasn't done it well so if you are projecting a guy to lose his job, his name would be pretty high on the list. Nathan was pretty bad last year and until he proves that he is completely healthy, you have to wonder if he will stay healthy and be effective as well.
Yes they have the job now but that doesn't mean they will continue to hold the job all year. That is the point Hootie is making. He doesn't think Perez or Nathan hold the job all year for whatever reason and like you pointed out if a guy doesn't get the job done, he is gone. So again what are you arguing here? They have the managers backing today but that means little if they don't keep it.
Read the first page. He argued what I said about what you really need to know.
Than I was arguing that it does not really matter, that they have Adams and Pestano waiting in the pen to take over.
I was arguing that even if their skill set is slightly worse, they have the job, and they can hold it as long as they get the job done.
If I looking at skill set, Marshall would be very high on the list.
But as I mentioned he has Dusty, who is not confident to name him closer.