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j24jags wrote:Fade2White12 wrote:As the only owner with multiple first round players, I think you guys are conspiring against me.
The nice thing about Ender's system though is that you would still have 4 of them next season (you'd be able to choose which 4 by ranking them rounds 2-5). The following season you'd have 3 (again you'd choose which 3)...I trust that you'll be able to find at least one solid keeper at some point in the draft per season (which is all you'd have to if you just lose one first round pick each year).
RedBullVodka wrote:While I see what Ender and j24Jags are saying, personally, I'm against a system that means you are forced to drop a player at some point.
Going back to my earlier comments in the previous thread:
1) Five keepers appears to have only a minor effect on success in league
2) Differences in value in early rounds is less important than in later rounds.
So, if someone has three round 1 keepers, it means he can't pick again until round 4, and misses out on a lot of re-draft talent in that time, and, at the same time, how likely is it that someone has three keepers in round 1, that remain at that value for very long?
Remember that is three players out of the top 14 in a redraft league. There is enough turnover every year that I can't see it, and if one of those players drops a little the next year to be a round 2 or 3 pick, then that is closer to the value the player holding him will be getting anyway.
And with our escalation system, most of the real bargains are going to take a long time to reach Rd 1 value anyway - and i think these were the targets of the changes anyway?
I just think we might be getting too hung up on the Rd 1 issue. If we implemented this change, probably only Fade, and maybe a couple of others would have two Rd 1 picks next year anyway.
Ayebatter has Rd 1-3 this year; TD has Rds 1&2; AO has rd 1&2. The guy who might have most Rd 1 picks in future years is Aqua, with Lincecum (2), Lee (3), Grandy (4), Votto (5) and Cano (8), but even with him, this is going to take a while to work through, and I don't see some of those guys holding their value for that long?
My preference remains:
Simple escalation and no other changes - I like Jusman's proposal
1st - 5th - Pick escalates 1 round per year.
6th - 11th - Pick escalates 2 rounds per year.
12th - 20th - Pick escalates 3 rounds per year.
21st - 26th - Pick escalates 4 rounds per year.
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