HOOTIE wrote:rjforlife wrote:I think it's gonna be Gio this year, and not close. He pitches deeper into games than Zimmerman, which should result in more wins given they are on the same team. The added inning and already better K/9 also means Gio should be 40-50 more K's than Zimmerman, as the switch to the NL may only serve to further that gap. ERA is a legitimate toss-up, so there's no real way to say who has the edge there. Gio certainly walks more batters, but he strikes more out at as well, getting his strand rate up and keeping his ERA down. The WHIP is the only arena Zimmerman has the clear edge, and it could be significant, but if you want to start drafting pitchers on WHIP alone, good luck to you. I will take the massive K's, probable more W's, and worse WHIP every time.
More baserunners, mean more runs, less likely chance to win.
As far as deeper into games,
GG last year, 6.31 innings per start.
JZ last year, 6.20 innings per start.
Now factor in, Gio never got pulled for a pinch hitter, which will happen now in the NL.
GG will miss Oaklands foul ground.
H 3.56 era
R 4.32 era
GG gets more K's, the wins is a toss up, depending on run support, but JZ wins the era/whip.
Given GG no longer has Oakland to help him, and he will get pulled sooner then in the AL,
I take JZ easily, because he is better at preventing base runners, by a large amount.
Hootie, very well stated I just got lazy and put saber in mine lol. People act as if Gio is a lock and these are the people who dont look into pitching stats. The only edge i can possibly see Gio beating Zim at is k per 9 which is debatable since I see his k's climbing back up to previous levels.
I made a post on Zimmermann last preseason for people to get this kid as he looks like a possible JJ and he didnt disappoint... hes going to approach 200ip this year too.