onitapgr wrote:My Tulo and one of Gardner, Ethier, Beachy for his Andrus and Cliff Lee
This deal isn't even close for me. I think Andrus does remain a keeper, but you're giving up the best SS and then some for SS who will help you in 3 categories and an elite, yet old SP.
My Bautista and one of Gardner, Ethier, Beachy for his Lawrie and Kershaw
This deal is closer, but I still would not accept. Kershaw is gold, but you already have a top notch SP core in Greinke, Verlander, and Strasburg. Lawrie has potential, but it is just that- potential. I wouldn't call him a top 3B yet- he hasn't played a full season. Bautista is the top 3B and one of the best. If Lawrie was a little more proven and you didn't have a great SP core, I would be tempted. But as is, your keepers make your team a SET contender. No way do I deal away a top player in that for youth.
My Tulo and one of Gardner, Ethier, Beachy for his Hanley and Bumgarner or Josh Johnson
Not a terrible deal, but I wouldn't take it.
I guess it depends how much faith you have in Hanley. He will probably lose SS eligibility at some point... though maybe not. Who thinks Reyes will be 100% injury free? And when Reyes is down, I would imagine Hanley moves back over to get enough for the minimum requirement (at least for Yahoo). Bumgarner is high upside, but your SP is set. JJ is coming back from missing a season. Not worth much, let alone a Tulo deal, until he can prove he is healthy.