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MaudDib wrote:I think I would take Garcia but I could see them ending with very similar numbers. I don't think Cueto will match a low 2 ERA where as I think Garcia can do better than a mid 3 ERA. Garcia should give you slightly better K numbers and plays for a team on a better team in a better pitching league.
pjalst wrote:MaudDib wrote:I think I would take Garcia but I could see them ending with very similar numbers. I don't think Cueto will match a low 2 ERA where as I think Garcia can do better than a mid 3 ERA. Garcia should give you slightly better K numbers and plays for a team on a better team in a better pitching league.
I like Cueto, but his low K #'s scares me, leads me to belive his low ERA might be due to luck. But on the other hand he has steady declines in H, R, ER, and BB across the board. I'm an AL fan so I don't get to see him throw much, so I'm relying on you Cin and NL fans to help me on this one.
bayside wrote:I like jaime garcia much better.
Seems like his skills are much more repeatable than cuetos.
They had similar GB% in 2011 but Cuetos was a career best, and way way above his norm. Garcia is pretty much an extreme gb pitcher and has always been one.
Cueto also has a really weak K rate (6 K/9 and ~16% K rate), and his swinging strike rate has been trending down as well (under 8% in 2011).. Not much chance for him to ever be any better than average in K's.
Garcia SwSt% has been above 10% in each of his 2 full big league years, and his K% was 19% in each year, good for ~7.3 K/9.
Garcias BB rate was also better than Cuetos last year, and id expect that to continue.
RedHopeful wrote:he changed his entire approach to pitching. This year he became a pitcher where his primary goal was to CONSTANTLY keep the hitter off balance. Therefore, you've got to partially disregard the K rate and swinging strike rate as his stuff is positively still there. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see both rates go back up to some degree. Once he becomes so comfortable with his command, he'll probably start skinning the cat multiple ways. Sure seems Halladay among others have gone this way with their careers.
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