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bigken117 wrote:consecutive games with a hit is the greatest recordI thought we were all smarter to realize there is so much luck involved in that. Granted, nobody's come within 20% of it, but with a little bit of luck and a lot of skill, it could happen.
look at career Wins, still approx a 20% lead for Cy Young over Walter Johnson, but nobody will ever reach that.
saemick wrote:bigken117 wrote:consecutive games with a hit is the greatest recordI thought we were all smarter to realize there is so much luck involved in that. Granted, nobody's come within 20% of it, but with a little bit of luck and a lot of skill, it could happen.
look at career Wins, still approx a 20% lead for Cy Young over Walter Johnson, but nobody will ever reach that.
if you're saying that luck is involved in consecutive games with a hit, how about Wins in general? you're relying on your team to actually get you some run support to even get the Win. I believe it's been discussed here in the cafe at length that Wins are not indicative to how good/bad a pitcher really is, so if that's the case, why should we hold that as the greatest record? Sure Cy's record is extremely impressive, and probably will never be matched, but I just can't vote for career Wins as the greatest record.
Just my $0.02
1. 7 no-hitters - Nolan Ryan
2. 2632 Consecutive games played - Cal Ripken (1982-1998)
3. 59 Consecutive Scoreless Innings - Orel Hershiser (1988)
4. 130 SB - Rickey Henderson (1982)
5. 56 game hit streak - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
6. 29 Wins - Hal Newhouser (1944)
7. 7 Cy Young Awards - Roger Clemens
8. 7 MVP awards - Barry Bonds
9. .406 BA - Ted Williams (1941)
10. 383 Strikeouts - Nolan Ryan (1973)
11. 0.74 WHIP - Pedro Martinez (2000)
12. 1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson (1968)
13. 23 Triples - Dale Mitchell (1949)
14. 262 Hits - Ichiro Suzuki (2004)
15. 73 HR - Barry Bonds (2001)
16. 165 RBI - Manny Ramirez (1999)
17. 84 Consecutive Saves - Eric Gagne (2002 - 2004)
18. 59 Doubles - Todd Helton (2000)
19. 152 Runs - Jeff Bagwell (2000)
20. 57 Saves - Bobby Thigpen (1990)
Tavish wrote:Although not quite the same as the poll, here were the results from the Cafe Vote-Off for modern records from a few years ago.1. 7 no-hitters - Nolan Ryan
2. 2632 Consecutive games played - Cal Ripken (1982-1998)
3. 59 Consecutive Scoreless Innings - Orel Hershiser (1988)
4. 130 SB - Rickey Henderson (1982)
5. 56 game hit streak - Joe DiMaggio (1941)
6. 29 Wins - Hal Newhouser (1944)
7. 7 Cy Young Awards - Roger Clemens
8. 7 MVP awards - Barry Bonds
9. .406 BA - Ted Williams (1941)
10. 383 Strikeouts - Nolan Ryan (1973)
11. 0.74 WHIP - Pedro Martinez (2000)
12. 1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson (1968)
13. 23 Triples - Dale Mitchell (1949)
14. 262 Hits - Ichiro Suzuki (2004)
15. 73 HR - Barry Bonds (2001)
16. 165 RBI - Manny Ramirez (1999)
17. 84 Consecutive Saves - Eric Gagne (2002 - 2004)
18. 59 Doubles - Todd Helton (2000)
19. 152 Runs - Jeff Bagwell (2000)
20. 57 Saves - Bobby Thigpen (1990)
Dan Lambskin wrote:Verlander might make a run at that 1st one
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