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Postby smithmn » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:46 am

Hey Everyone,

So, I am in a 10-team, head-to-head league. We just drafted this year, and are planning on making it a 3-year keeper league. My team is struggling, I'm 3-7 right now. I have been trying to move Carl Crawford, but don't want to just give him away because of his down year. I finally have an offer I am really considering.

I Trade: Carl Crawford (just on 15-day DL) and Josh Johnson (won't be back until mid-July)
I Receive: Michael Morse (hottest hitter in the game right now, and very young) and Tommy Hanson (on the 15-day DL, but having a great year)

I think this helps my team because I really lack power (last in HR and RBI), and I think for this year Hanson's value is equal to that of Johnson's.

Here is my lineup...

C - Miguel Olivo
1B - Gaby Sanchez
2B - Dustin Ackley
3B - Ryan Zimmeramn
SS - Jimmy Rollins
OF - Jacoby Ellsbury
OF - Charlie Blackmon
OF - Logan Morrison
UT - David Ortiz
BN - Adam Dunn
BN - Carl Crawford

SP Jon Lester, Bos SP Mil 1:35 PM (Gallardo) 97.1 88 40 36 95 9 0 3.70 1.27 5.49 100.0 +0
SP Trevor Cahill, Oak SP PP SF 4:05 PM (Cain) 92.0 86 35 41 67 6 0 3.42 1.38 -5.65 94.3 -5.7
SP Justin Masterson, Cle SP PP Pit 1:05 PM (Karstens) 94.0 93 33 32 65 5 0 3.16 1.33 -0.69 65.2 +0.8
SP Jeremy Guthrie, Bal SP DTD @Was 1:35 PM (Gorzelanny) 91.0 90 36 17 59 2 0 3.56 1.18 -1.59 7.6 -2.8
RP Heath Bell, SD RP @Min 2:10 PM (Liriano) 29.0 22 9 11 23 2 18 2.79 1.14 -0.11 100.0 +0
RP Neftali Feliz, Tex RP @Atl 1:35 PM (Jurrjens) 25.1 17 6 15 17 0 14 2.13 1.26 1.10 100.0 +0
Bench Chris Carpenter, StL SP KC 2:15 PM (Duffy) 98.2 113 49 24 78 1 0 4.47 1.39 0.95 100.0 +0
Bench Ricky Romero, Tor SP @Cin 1:10 PM (Arroyo) 95.2 81 32 34 87 6 0 3.01 1.20 2.80 100.0 +0
Bench Nick Blackburn, Min SP SD 2:10 PM (Moseley) 91.0 96 32 24 47 6 0 3.16 1.32 2.94 4.7 +1.1
DL Josh Johnson*, Fla SP DL60 @TB 1:40 PM (Shields) 60.1 39 11 20 56 3 0 1.64 0.98 -- 100.0 +0

Opinions please!!!
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Postby ahcryky » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:52 am

If it was just for this year I would consider it. But in a keeper, you are giving up way too much. Even if Johnson and Hanson were equal, Crawford and Morse are not. Morse may be hot now, and may be a good hitter n the future, but Crawford is a top 10 bat when healthy. I say don't do it. You are selling Crawford way too low.
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Postby rjforlife » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:56 am

You are selling low on Crawford and buying high on Morse. That's the opposite of what you want to be doing. I realize the health issue has you pondering but don't do it. In a non-keeper I would hesitate, in a keeper it's an easy pass. Find a more proven hitter to go with Hanson and then we may be talking.


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Postby Trebor » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:38 pm

agreed with ^

selling low and buying high (Morse). unless you can get a top 25 guy in return for Crawford, Im just stick it out...youve already been through the worst of it (we presume) & should be back after the min 15 days.


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Postby smithmn » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:28 pm

Thanks guys, I agree I was giving up a little too much, so I countered and got another hitter...

Carl Crawford
Miguel Olivo
Josh Johnson


Michael Morse
Brian McCann
Tommy Hanson

That gives me a legit catcher, .300 hitter with some pop and drives in runs. I really view Hanson and Johnson as about equal, Johnson's injury concerns and playing for the Marlins hurts him. Crawford is still a stud, just having a down year, but I feel like with having Ellsbury I'm getting all I would from Crawford (hitting .300, stealing bases, scoring runs).
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Postby smithmn » Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:50 pm

We have re-worked the final deal - I think I am getting a little bit more young, talent back for Crawford.

I Send: Carl Crawford, Logan Morrison, Josh Johnson, Jeremy Guthrie
I Get: Michael Morse, Mike Stanton, Tommy Hanson, Dillon Gee

My New Lineup:

C: Miguel Olivo
1B: Gaby Sanchez
2B: Dustin Ackley
3B: Ryan Zimmerman
SS: Jimmy Rollins
OF: Jacoby Ellsbury
OF: Michael Morse
OF: Mike Stanton
UT: David Ortiz
BN: Adam Dunn
BN: Charlie Blackmon
BN: Placido Polanco

SP: Jon Lester
SP: Tommy Hanson
SP: Trevor Cahill
SP: Ricky Romero
RP: Heath Bell
RP: Neftali Feliz
BN: Dillon Gee
BN: Justin Masterson
BN: Nick Blackburn
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Postby High cheese » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:58 pm

As much as I like Stanton I am not a fan of this deal. Crawford was starting to come around just before his injury and as "injury prone" as JJ is his upside is more than Hanson's IMO. Not a terrible deal at all but rather have Crawford/JJ in a keeper.
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Postby wkpdpack » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:14 pm

I'd have to agree with the majority of posts saying you are selling low. It's going to be awfully hard right now to get value for Crawford since he's injured and not playing well. I'd hang tight until a better offer comes. If you end up building for next year, he'll serve as a solid keeper.

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