The Artful Dodger wrote:Because it's easy for you, doesn't make it so for everyone else. As mentioned earlier, some people are just innately and experientially better at public speaking than others. I'm not likely to know a lot about planning on building a bar, that's simply out of my expertise. I'm likely better served at launching and operating a startup than others, but I wouldn't say it's easy even if I had the experience because it's not. It gets easier with more experience, but it doesn't make it easy.
Everyone has things that come to them very easily and things that are just the opposite. There are an awful lot of things that people make harder to do than they really are though.
Oh definitely, there are people who by nature and/or nurture are better/weaker in certain areas. It's easier for people to do certain things, but that doesn't make the feat in itself easy.
For example, my father has probably cooked paella a thousand times or more than that throughout his life. Most times, it's great and there are times where it's better than usual... and times where something is amiss. Repetition and talent combined leads to proficiency, in making things easier but making paella consists of a good deal of ingredients and technique. If you're just slightly off in one step or two, then it comes off not quite to expectation.
Going back on topic, I've known a few people who are serial entrepreneurs, successful in a few ventures under their belt. Success should breed more success for them in their future endeavors, but obviously, that's not always the case later on the road. To be fair, there are factors in play that aren't quite out of control as to why they and their businesses don't perform to expectation.
So, yes, IMO, some things may come easier for people, or seemingly easier, but that doesn't make the goal in itself easy to attain for those people.
Madison wrote:Hard to say what is the best advice for "most" people. You think it's best for the majority to go, I think a big percentage wastes time and money for not enough in return to make it worthwhile. I agree that most benefit from college, but disagree that the benefit is worth the time and money. Minor disagreement really.
Well, my advice to most people is that if they're in a good position to attend college, do it. Now, if they had a more lucrative opportunity to forgo college, well then, it's a different situation that warrants more than one way to assess it.
For a lot of people, their opportunities are limited, especially when they're pursuing a specific goal. You're not likely to get far working your way to becoming a lawyer without a bachelor's degree and law school. For a doctor, it's college and medical school. For aspiring engineers, marketers, economists, or even filmmakers and screenwriters, and so on, they're likely to put themselves in a better position for career advancement going to college than working right away. Most employers won't consider those fields without a degree. If they don't have a degree, their margin for error to impress and convince those employers is greater. They have to create something amazing on their resumes to get their foot in the door. Then, the question becomes how would they get that work in the first place? Without college, it might take someone 5 years and 5 different jobs to scrap their way through and that might not be enough. It's not easy for college grads to get that work either, but they're in an easier position for those jobs, without having to take the extraneous time and effort it takes someone without a degree to get there.
At the end of the day, everyone should be honest about what they have and what they can do, as it applies to moving forward. For a lot of people, the answer is college. I tend to think you view college as a functional kind of education only. Yes, getting a good job is a primary goal, but that's really just one way of looking at it. College is a more complete experience than that, but of course, you'll beg to differ and that's fine. Just that there's more to college than you think.
Actually no, you're the one who keeps mentioning my opinion of the generation, not me.
I confirmed what I think of them, but I've tried to leave it at that.
I keep mentioning it, because it's hard to ignore your opinion during the course of this discussion. I don't expect your opinions to change, but I just want to offer up a different perspective which just so happens to challenge your thinking.
I can understand the skepticism about Generation Y; some of it the criticism is well warranted. I just disagree with that skepticism or negativity extending for the generation. It takes all kinds, in the end.
Contrary to popular belief, discussions like this one are things I enjoy. I like hearing the other side of the argument, and once in awhile (not often I will admit), my tune changes on a topic. I don't have these conversations just to blow it all off and forget about it, or simply to wear out yet another keyboard or anything.
I enjoy these discussions too. I tend to find GT a bit monotonous with the silliness, in general. It's great when we can talk about serious issues in these parts that really matter... and do so in a spirited, but friendly manner.
Cali is nice, but I don't do earthquakes or the cost of living there.
Have they fixed the pool at the Playboy Mansion yet? Last I heard the big outbreak of stuff was due to something with the pool.
If the problem has been solved, I'm definitely game.
Understand about the cost of living. We have earthquakes here, but like I always say, they're not as common as others might think... at least the big tremors (knock on wood
As for the Playboy Mansion pool, I'm not sure. I haven't been to the Playboy Mansion in 5 years myself. Last time I've been was for my friend's birthday party there; his parents are very good friends/neighbors with Hugh Hefner and hence, why he got the luxury to host his party there, not once but twice (I've been twice
). It just so happens that his birthday is the day before Halloween and it coincides with Playboy Mansion's infamous Halloween bashes.