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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby rotoquest » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:49 am

I have come to the conclusion that Hanley does not deserve #2 overall. Despite his hyped name and all the high projections, the reality of the situation is shown in showing his average stats over the last 2 years production amounting to 1100+ at bats compared to M Cabrera.

Hanley:
22HR 96RUNS 91RBI’S 31SB 0.315BA

M Cabrera:
36HR 104RUNS 115RBI’S 4SB 0.326BA

Cabrera beats Hanley significantly in 4 categories & I can make up 27 steals throughout the draft, but I cannot get a thumper like Cabrera later in the draft. I know cabrera has had some personal problems, but I don't think they will interfere with him raking again in Detroit this year. I know hanley's name is listed 2nd on many top 300 lists, but not on mine.
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby Broncmet724 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:56 am

rotoquest wrote:I have come to the conclusion that Hanley does not deserve #2 overall. Despite his hyped name and all the high projections, the reality of the situation is shown in showing his average stats over the last 2 years production amounting to 1100+ at bats compared to M Cabrera.

Hanley:
22HR 96RUNS 91RBI’S 31SB 0.315BA

M Cabrera:
36HR 104RUNS 115RBI’S 4SB 0.326BA

Cabrera beats Hanley significantly in 4 categories & I can make up 27 steals throughout the draft, but I cannot get a thumper like Cabrera later in the draft. I know cabrera has had some personal problems, but I don't think they will interfere with him raking again in Detroit this year. I know hanley's name is listed 2nd on many top 300 lists, but not on mine.


I personally think Cabrera is the only guy with a chance to match numbers Pujols can put up. In my opinion Pujols is #1 with Cabrera #2
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby wingman3110 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:40 am

Whats you guys' thoughts on taking Crawford #6 overall in a 5x5 roto assuming both Cabrera and Tulo are off the board?
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby Skin Blues » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:48 am

Standard 5x5 I could easily see myself taking Crawford at #6.
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby bjquil00 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:53 am

rotoquest wrote:I have come to the conclusion that Hanley does not deserve #2 overall. Despite his hyped name and all the high projections, the reality of the situation is shown in showing his average stats over the last 2 years production amounting to 1100+ at bats compared to M Cabrera.

Hanley:
22HR 96RUNS 91RBI’S 31SB 0.315BA

M Cabrera:
36HR 104RUNS 115RBI’S 4SB 0.326BA

Cabrera beats Hanley significantly in 4 categories & I can make up 27 steals throughout the draft, but I cannot get a thumper like Cabrera later in the draft. I know cabrera has had some personal problems, but I don't think they will interfere with him raking again in Detroit this year. I know hanley's name is listed 2nd on many top 300 lists, but not on mine.


I disagree with your assessment...it's not which of the 2 will put up better numbers (IMO, if that were the case Hanley wouldn't even be a 1st rounder), it's which of the 2 will help your team more...if you take Hanley in the 1st and then take Konerko or Morales in the 6th or 7th, your team will have much more value than taking Cabrera in the 1st and Drew or A. Ramirez in the 6th or 7th. 1B is deep in that as long as you get one of the top 10-12, you won't suffer as much as missing out on one of the other positions.
I do feel that Hanley and Tulo are the only 2 people to take over a stud 1B for the simple fact that all the other positions have at least 4 or 5 solid options that you can take in the the next 2-3 rounds. If you miss out on one of those 2, SS is going to be a hole in your team.
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby theplayer11 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:26 pm

^well..10 of 12 teams will have holes then..lol
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby AquaMan2342 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:35 pm

Crawford is another guy I'd take over Tulowitzki.
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby wingman3110 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:02 pm

Im hoping I dont have to choose between Tulo and Crawford...I am torn between the two at the #6 spot
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby rotoquest » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:30 pm

bjquil00 wrote:
rotoquest wrote:I have come to the conclusion that Hanley does not deserve #2 overall. Despite his hyped name and all the high projections, the reality of the situation is shown in showing his average stats over the last 2 years production amounting to 1100+ at bats compared to M Cabrera.

Hanley:
22HR 96RUNS 91RBI’S 31SB 0.315BA

M Cabrera:
36HR 104RUNS 115RBI’S 4SB 0.326BA

Cabrera beats Hanley significantly in 4 categories & I can make up 27 steals throughout the draft, but I cannot get a thumper like Cabrera later in the draft. I know cabrera has had some personal problems, but I don't think they will interfere with him raking again in Detroit this year. I know hanley's name is listed 2nd on many top 300 lists, but not on mine.


I disagree with your assessment...it's not which of the 2 will put up better numbers (IMO, if that were the case Hanley wouldn't even be a 1st rounder), it's which of the 2 will help your team more...if you take Hanley in the 1st and then take Konerko or Morales in the 6th or 7th, your team will have much more value than taking Cabrera in the 1st and Drew or A. Ramirez in the 6th or 7th. 1B is deep in that as long as you get one of the top 10-12, you won't suffer as much as missing out on one of the other positions.
I do feel that Hanley and Tulo are the only 2 people to take over a stud 1B for the simple fact that all the other positions have at least 4 or 5 solid options that you can take in the the next 2-3 rounds. If you miss out on one of those 2, SS is going to be a hole in your team.


You are thinking 2-dimensional considering 1B & SS only. The total team is going to benefit more from a better foundation. SS will not be as strong, but the total team hitting categories will be stronger.
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Re: Best Values 1st Round

Postby grizfan » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:00 pm

So, would you guys still take Crawford at #6 if Braun and Cargo are still available?

I also have the #6 pick. I am assuming that Pujols, Hanley, and MCab will be off the board, but I am struggling with #4-#6. I currently have Votto, Braun, and Crawford, in that order. Tulo seems a bit streeky/risky to me at #6, but not sure. Any thoughts?
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