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jfg wrote:I went to private school in 10th grade and the school had close to the best test scores in the state. But, it was the worst learning experience I've ever had and I went back to public school the next year. You know why? Because those teachers were instructed on how to get kids to pass a stupid test, not how to really grasp the material.
AquaMan2342 wrote:To build on what GF said....why will it never get overhauled? You guessed it! The NEA! Until a hardline conservative can somehow succeed in fixing the union problem, no well-intentioned liberal will even dare take on the unions and risk losing probably 75% of their support (lol) to fix it.
GiantsFan14 wrote:AquaMan2342 wrote:To build on what GF said....why will it never get overhauled? You guessed it! The NEA! Until a hardline conservative can somehow succeed in fixing the union problem, no well-intentioned liberal will even dare take on the unions and risk losing probably 75% of their support (lol) to fix it.
unions were important back when companies actually exploited people (poor working conditions and such), but they really have no place in today's society. the only job protection people deserve is protection they get from actually doing they're job and doing it well. the only thing that salary should be dependent on is the availability of people capable of doing the job and how well they do that job. for example, it is incredibly hard to become a police officer or fire fighter because so incredibly many people apply for that position. therefore it seems like common sense to me that those positions are overpaid. the supply of police officers and fire fighters is much higher than the demand and in order to even it out salaries should be decreased. there's pretty much no way that is going to happen because of the unions, so instead they'll continue to be overpaid and there will continue to be long lines of people trying to get into those professions.
GiantsFan14 wrote:My mom is a teacher and I'm planning on being a teacher, and I pretty much agree 100% with aqua. There is no competition, it doesn't matter how hard you work or how much you care, there are no punishments for being bad, there are no rewards for being good, once you're in you're in and there is no motivation to actually do a good job. That is one of the major reasons why the education system sucks so much and why privatization would help so much. (For the record I think most things the government is in charge of should probably be privatized.) Pretty much anyone can be a teacher, it doesn't really matter if you're any good at it, and you're paid ridiculous amounts of money for how much work you actually have to do. It's incredibly inefficient and needs a major overhaul.
bigken117 wrote:while I don't agree with the point being made that police are overpaid (I mean there should be some scale for "overtime" directing traffic but I digress) those unions typically make it hard for the city and municipalities to get rid of cops and firefighters who are milking back injuries to the tune of full pay plus disability and drawing their paycheck directly from you and I. Most unions give no incentive for employees to try or care, knowing they are protected no matter how well or poorly they do.
GiantsFan14 wrote:jfg wrote:The motivation should be the love of teaching and educating children.
i want to live in your world.
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