teddy ballgame wrote:
thedude wrote:This is the agruement that ken and others later adopted and nearly had aqua lynched on day 1 and was used to lynch him on day 2. It would be pretty stupid of a mafia to formulate the plan that was eventually used to lynch one of the other mafia. Now I will let the other townies formulate your own opinions on this. And I plead you to actually think through your actions rather than just following GF because he is more experienced than you are.
At the same time, you always lumped Aqua in with me and BigL about being lurkers. You did vote for Aqua on day 1, but later on you merely threatened to vote for him, and you did the same towards me and the other lurkers. It was a good way to give yourself an alibi to come back to, without really pushing for Aqua specifically.
If I was mafia I either would have pushed hard for aqua on day 2 to establish a very good alibi, or I would have talked about him at all. The fact that I was suspicious of all three of you should show you that I really did not have a clear read on which one of the lurkers was the mifia and which were just busy townies. I suspected aqua because apparently he only knows how to play mafia one way (by just ignoring the game and hoping to be forgotten), but I still didn't know enough. I wanted to give all three of you guys to chime in with your thoughts and start contributing. By the post which GF read (after being mia for most of the first two days playing star craft or star wars or whatever) you, Teddy and Lebowski had at least checked in. Aqua had not. I was willing to give him more time as was I willing to give anyone more time.
If I was mafia I never would have planted the seeds (which is what I did) of aqua's destruction without actually going after him hard. By not going after aqua hard I got none of the credit for his lynching, and thus I need to explain myself to the townies who did not see what lead to aqua's lynching.
Here is how aqua died (you can go back and read day 1 and 2 again, this will back my story up. Don't skim it because you will miss the subtleties of what lead to what).
- I noted that aqua was again lurking and "hit and run" voting. The exact same thing he did the last two times he was a mafia. I voted for him, figuring that at worst we were getting rid of someone who was not contributing and at best getting rid of a mafia. This argument would continue to be used in arguments against aqua as the game progressed.
-Ken saw what I wrote. Agreed with my premise and voted for aqua. The aqua bandwagon gained steam, but was ulitmately passed by the m16 bandwagon (for reasons I am still unsure of).
-Again I call out all the lurkers (by this point most people had a chance to contribute, so there were fewer lurkers, but still some). I urge you all to contribute.
-I don't vote for a lurker yet because I figure that while a mafia is hiding among the lurkers, there are more promising leads (specifically steelers for his actions on day 1, which he later explained) and titan for his actions on day 2 (which still seem a mystery to me).
-Ken and others see my calling out the lurkers and think it is a good idea and start the lynch teddy bandwagon. I don't hop on board this bandwagon, but consider it, giving you all time to post.
-teddy and lebo ultimately do start contributing. the teddy bandwagon loses steam.
-meanwhile people remembering my argument from day 1, or just influenced by others who remember it start the lynch aqua bandwagon. These include ken, who favorably quoted me several times over the first two days.
-I consider joining the lynch aqua bandwagon, but continuing my policy of giving lurkers a chance to post, I tell aqua to post or I will vote for him. (If I was mafia, I would simply have told him via PM to get his ass into the mafia thread and start positing, which would ave attracted much more notice).
-I am not the only person that wanted to give the lurkers more time: bills himself was very hesitant to jump on either titan or aqua, and wanted to give aqua more time as well; jfg, a proven townie, did not vote for aqua because he felt there were "suspicious people" on the aqua bandwagon; teddy didn't you say that you were hesitant to vote for someone just because they were quite (you voted titan if memory serves me correct); and there were 4 others who did not post many thoughts about aqua at all, but did not vote for him.
While Lebo did mention me, I was at the bottom of his list and he posted little to indicate that he had actually investigated me at that point.
I ask those of you who would vote for me, why are your votes cast for me? If the best reason you have is that GF said that I might be mafia (without much support, based upon an out of context remark), then I go back and form you own opinion.
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