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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby Madison » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:14 am

jake_twothousandfive wrote:To be honest, it's probably more the drivers than the driving conditions. I'm guessing it's really not that bad.

I have some relatives from Texas (near Houston) who visit every few years. They have absolutely no idea how to drive here in the winter. I'm not going to get into a car with one of them driving in icy conditions.


What's not that bad? :-?

There is no excuse for the roads to still be a sheet of ice 2 days after an ice storm that brought between 1 and 2 inches of ice.

I could care less about the macho crap of who can and who cannot drive on ice, it is irrelevant to me. My complaint is that there shouldn't be any ice on the road to begin with at this point.
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby jake_twothousandfive » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:43 am

Madison wrote:
jake_twothousandfive wrote:To be honest, it's probably more the drivers than the driving conditions. I'm guessing it's really not that bad.

I have some relatives from Texas (near Houston) who visit every few years. They have absolutely no idea how to drive here in the winter. I'm not going to get into a car with one of them driving in icy conditions.


What's not that bad? :-?

There is no excuse for the roads to still be a sheet of ice 2 days after an ice storm that brought between 1 and 2 inches of ice.

I could care less about the macho crap of who can and who cannot drive on ice, it is irrelevant to me. My complaint is that there shouldn't be any ice on the road to begin with at this point.

Wow. I'm sorry I said anything. Good luck.
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby Tavish » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:26 am

Leave it to Madison to blame the government for not taking care of the people. :-D
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby Metroid » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:44 am

Salting roads is not only a death sentence to motorized vehicles, it can seriously harm ground drinking water. It can also kill the surrounding vegetation and attract large animals (deer and moose) near the roadways, which leads to other obvious issues. Of course the environmental impact is minimal for short term salt deicing, but just the damage done to vehicles alone would make me say no thanks. I live in a city (Portland) where we have minimal bouts with ice and snow as well. I've found for me it's best just to hunker down, if I can, and wait for it to pass. And I have good chains if I need them.
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby StlSluggers » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:54 am

I think wrecking my car on an icy road would do way more damage to it than exposure to salt for a couple days.

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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby Mookie4ever » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:56 am

Metroid wrote:Salting roads is not only a death sentence to motorized vehicles, it can seriously harm ground drinking water. It can also kill the surrounding vegetation and attract large animals (deer and moose) near the roadways, which leads to other obvious issues. Of course the environmental impact is minimal for short term salt deicing, but just the damage done to vehicles alone would make me say no thanks. I live in a city (Portland) where we have minimal bouts with ice and snow as well. I've found for me it's best just to hunker down, if I can, and wait for it to pass. And I have good chains if I need them.


Salt hurts cars? Not since the 80s.
Chains on the other hand are illegal in Ontario b/c they tear up roads.
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby Metroid » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:11 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:
Metroid wrote:Salting roads is not only a death sentence to motorized vehicles, it can seriously harm ground drinking water. It can also kill the surrounding vegetation and attract large animals (deer and moose) near the roadways, which leads to other obvious issues. Of course the environmental impact is minimal for short term salt deicing, but just the damage done to vehicles alone would make me say no thanks. I live in a city (Portland) where we have minimal bouts with ice and snow as well. I've found for me it's best just to hunker down, if I can, and wait for it to pass. And I have good chains if I need them.


Salt hurts cars? Not since the 80s.
Chains on the other hand are illegal in Ontario b/c they tear up roads.


There are deicing agents that do not harm cars, but traditional salting most certainly does damage cars. Doesn't matter if it's 1980's salt or 2011 salt. Salt is salt broseph. :-B

Yeah it's true, chains do tear up roads....but only if you wear them on minimal ice. If there is a thick enough ice sheet, the chains should never touch the road surface. I do see why chains would be illegal in places that deal with snow regularly though. People generally do not know when and when not to use them, even if they are used to snow and ice. And people are generally lazy, they will continue to drive with their chains when they should pull over and take them off. Anyway, I was mainly saying have them on hand for an emergency situation. Like I said, if it's just a few days, wait it out.

And yeah Sluggers, sliding off an icy road would probably cause more damage to your car than a couple days of salt. haha. :-b
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby bigken117 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:15 pm

Metroid wrote:S it can seriously harm ground drinking water. It can also kill the surrounding vegetation


lol, won't someone think of the trees :-o :-o
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby Metroid » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:24 pm

bigken117 wrote:
Metroid wrote:S it can seriously harm ground drinking water. It can also kill the surrounding vegetation


lol, won't someone think of the trees :-o :-o


lol, oxygen is soooo overrated.
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Re: Blizzaster 2011

Postby lastingsgriller » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:27 pm

Metroid wrote:
bigken117 wrote:
Metroid wrote:S it can seriously harm ground drinking water. It can also kill the surrounding vegetation


lol, won't someone think of the trees :-o :-o


lol, oxygen is soooo overrated.



dude.. they have oxygen bars for that stuff now.. trees are so '90's :-b
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