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Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:38 pm
by Curtis Pride
Skin Blues wrote:Obviously there's more than just power to consider. OPS isn't just power though. You pick the hitting metric to use, and Ellsbury is just not that good. 355 OBA is alright, but not that special for an outfielder with no power and a -10 UZR. By the way I don't think a freakishly low UZR is a redeeming quality, but I guess that's just me. Ellsbury would probably be pleased as punch to have a season as good as Adam Lind's 2009. Hell, Adam Lind would probably like to have another season as good as Adam Lind's 2009, haha.

This is all off-topic though... point is, Jays are crawling through the AL East and will wind up on top in 2012. Not the boldest of predictions, and there will be growing pains in 2011 considering they'll likely have two rookies in the rotation (with the three "vets" being in their mid-20s), a rookie catcher, and Lawrie will probably earn a starting spot at some point, but they'll still be miles better than the Orioles.

freakish as in "not consistent with his history". I meant "flukish" instead. Damn you Autocorrect!

predicting the Jays will be up top in two years is pretty bold actually. I do think Morrow is a potential ace, but other than that, their pitching is pretty mediocre unless a bunch of guys take huge leaps forward.

Being better than the Orioles isn't a bold prediction though. The Jays may challenge the Rays for 3rd though. But I doubt it either this year or next. Since the Rays are also flush with a bunch of youngsters.

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:55 pm
by mweir145
Curtis Pride wrote:
Skin Blues wrote:Obviously there's more than just power to consider. OPS isn't just power though. You pick the hitting metric to use, and Ellsbury is just not that good. 355 OBA is alright, but not that special for an outfielder with no power and a -10 UZR. By the way I don't think a freakishly low UZR is a redeeming quality, but I guess that's just me. Ellsbury would probably be pleased as punch to have a season as good as Adam Lind's 2009. Hell, Adam Lind would probably like to have another season as good as Adam Lind's 2009, haha.

This is all off-topic though... point is, Jays are crawling through the AL East and will wind up on top in 2012. Not the boldest of predictions, and there will be growing pains in 2011 considering they'll likely have two rookies in the rotation (with the three "vets" being in their mid-20s), a rookie catcher, and Lawrie will probably earn a starting spot at some point, but they'll still be miles better than the Orioles.

freakish as in "not consistent with his history". I meant "flukish" instead. Damn you Autocorrect!

predicting the Jays will be up top in two years is pretty bold actually. I do think Morrow is a potential ace, but other than that, their pitching is pretty mediocre unless a bunch of guys take huge leaps forward.

Being better than the Orioles isn't a bold prediction though. The Jays may challenge the Rays for 3rd though. But I doubt it either this year or next. Since the Rays are also flush with a bunch of youngsters.


The Jays had one of the best pitching staffs in baseball last season. While losing Marcum is a significant hit, if guys like Romero, Morrow, Cecil, Rzep, and Drabek continue to improve, that side of the game shouldn't be a problem for them at all.

Really, if the team wanted to contend right now, they probably could. There's a good enough base in place. But that would require Rogers actually spending an above-average sum on the MLB roster (something they've been unwilling to do over their 10 years of owning the team). As it stands, they'll probably finish with another Oakland A's-like 80 win season (which reminds me, it's just about time for Aussie's sig).

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:11 am
by StlSluggers
How was your holiday, Steve?

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:30 pm
by mweir145
StlSluggers wrote:How was your holiday, Steve?

As uneventful as any other.

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:49 pm
by DaSh 1s
mweir145 wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:How was your holiday, Steve?

As uneventful as any other.


Do they celebrate Christmas in Canada?

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:55 pm
by mweir145
DaSh 1s wrote:
mweir145 wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:How was your holiday, Steve?

As uneventful as any other.


Do they celebrate Christmas in Canada?

Nah, we're all pagans.

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:38 pm
by knapplc
mweir145 wrote:
DaSh 1s wrote:
Do they celebrate Christmas in Canada?

Nah, we're all pagans.

Mookie, take note.

Re: Reynolds to Baltimore?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:55 am
by Tavish
2012 seems really optimistic considering they are still in a rebuilding mode. I'll give most Blue Jays fans enough credit that they don't take some career offensive seasons as a sign that all they need is a couple of good prospects to come up and they are ready to contend.