The Artful Dodger wrote:Remember the federal government itself doesn't honor civil unions, but rather it's up to the states to allow them. That's where the flaws are derived from. So, in the eyes of the federal government, they don't see a same-sex civil union as being in relation as a traditional marriage (in other words, no relationship established). The fact that a couple can file a joint tax return within the state they reside (if it honors civil unions) but must file individually at the federal level is just scratching the surface, as far as the rights missed out. Like I said, if homosexuals are granted equal marriage rights, then in government's eyes, it should consider them as legally married with the same rights of marriage extended onto them.
Right, and I said the federal government needs to get involved and fix it. I thought they had more hands on with the creating of civil unions, but it seems I was wrong there as well. So it is certainly time for the federal government to fix that problem and make them equal.
The Artful Dodger wrote:An extra classification on the church's part would equally be just as pointless as the government classifying "civil unions" and marriage, all things being equal. The Catholic Church, in particular, won't budge in their insistence that marriage is only between a man and a woman, which sort of makes any classification a moot point really.
Shame I'm not Catholic, but it is a perfect example of "who" is responsible for "marriage". I believe it to be the church, you believe it to be the government. If we agreed on who controlled what marriage is, we might agree on the entire topic.
Art Vandelay wrote:If you did not mean to imply that you think this could lead to a breakdown of communication, you certainly took an odd path in making your point, whatever else it was.
There's a big difference in contributing to a possible future problem and being the one big thing that actually caused it. I've said changing definitions can lead to future communication problems and you jumped all the way to that one word causing no one to be able to communicate. Such a huge leap the two things aren't even in the same ocean, but to be fair, you were not the only one who did it.
Another way to explain it, if you see one ant bed in your yard and you do nothing about it, more and more ant beds will pop up, and if you still do nothing about it, eventually you won't be able to walk through your yard without being bitten by an ant. No difference here. I'm not saying this is the first ant bed, but it is one of a growing number of ant beds and it needs to be stopped (or killed for the analogy, along with the other ant beds).
Yes doctor, I am sick.
Sick of those who are spineless.
Sick of those who feel self-entitled.
Sick of those who are hypocrites.
Yes doctor, an army is forming.
Yes doctor, there will be a war.
Yes doctor, there will be blood.....