kab21 wrote: A Fleshner Fantasy wrote: jsphlly wrote:
Shoulda kept Lee...
No...they got Halladay, which is just as good, so regardless, they'd be going after Oswalt.
Halladay/Lee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halladay/Oswalt - the reasons given for trading Lee were money and replenishing the farm system. And Oswalt costs more money and the rumored prospects are better.
But most of the backlash now is on how horrible the Lee trade was. We don't how much money the Astros are sending and we don't know for sure what prospects are included. But this might not be a horrible deal (if you aren't using Lee in the equation). I would love it if my team had Oswalt for around 10M/yr for 2.5 seasons. However I am also very impressed with Singleton though.
The Phils got destroyed for Lee. It kills me to see what the Mariners got in return for Lee compared to what the Phils got in return for Lee. However, that said, an important part of Amaro's reasoning for trading Lee was that Amaro reportedly offered him the extension he offered Halladay (3 years/$60m with a fourth year $20m option), but Lee declined and Halladay accepted. Oswalt, in contrast, is already under team control until 2012 for cheaper than we were supposedly willing to offer Lee. So while I agree that the Phils got destroyed in the Lee trade, I feel like Oswalt is a completely separate scenario. Amaro seems to want pitchers that are under team control for a few years, rather than rental players. You can debate Amaro's strategy, but I'm not sure it's fair to say he should have kept Lee if he wanted two ace pitchers. Oswalt and Lee are completely different to him in that regard.
Also, just to clarify, the Phillies aren't willing to pay his whole 2010 and 2011 salary. Rumors are that Houston is eating about half of that, so Oswalt isn't more expensive (2 years/~$12m instead of 1 year/$9m).
Finally, the team is saying they're not trying to trade Werth now that Victorino is injured. I think it has more to do with the fact that we've won 7 in a row and gotten back to within 3.5 of the Braves, but they're claiming it's because of Victorino.