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Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:36 am
by vykeengfan
Earlier an owner in my league who I've been having informal trade discussions with told me an offer that another owner(our commish) offered him for the same player I was targeting. He then asked if I could top the offer. Would you guys consider this unethical? It sucks cuz we're all friends in this league, too. I was hanging w/ our commish and he even told me he was in discussions for a big trade. Should I tell the commish? I told the other guy to just look at my roster and make me a deal.
What do you guys think?

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:57 am
by drunkmonkey
Why would that be unethical? I'm sure MLB teams do this all the time. It seems like good GM strategy to me.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:29 am
by Havok1517
This was exactly what the Mariners just did with Cliff Lee. The Twins offered Hicks & Ramos, Yankees Montero, and then the Mariners like Smoak over them. I'm sure they asked all those teams if they could beat those offers. Nothing at all with that strategy.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:33 am
by AussieDodger
vykeengfan wrote:Earlier an owner in my league who I've been having informal trade discussions with told me an offer that another owner(our commish) offered him for the same player I was targeting. He then asked if I could top the offer. Would you guys consider this unethical? It sucks cuz we're all friends in this league, too. I was hanging w/ our commish and he even told me he was in discussions for a big trade. Should I tell the commish? I told the other guy to just look at my roster and make me a deal.
What do you guys think?


That'd be fine with me. It was nice of him to tell you what you're up against.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:04 am
by Seanyfever
Agreed. You obviously are learning the going rate on your to be traded players.... I like it... Better than overpaying vastly.

I can easily live with it.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:25 am
by kab21
This is perfectly acceptable. Sometimes it's a bluff, sometimes it isn't. And it's negotiating.

Taking this thread in a different direction. The first thing that I thought of was that one owner posted an owner's trade proposal for the league to see. Now this would be pretty low but I'm pretty close to doing this since I've been getting the same lopsided offers from the same owner all season. I've started sending back by own horrendously lopsided offers in the hope that he understands that he's an idiot.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:40 am
by fast dogs
So the question is "Is it unethical to reveal another managers trade offer?" or is it a regular part of baseball just trying to get the best deal. If you are hesitant to get into a bidding war knowing someone else's deal just make your offer stand on its own. Of course just because you top the other deal doesn't mean he won't go back to the commish and say ok, you gotta beat this to him. I prefer to say something like I have a better offer w/o revealing names. I haven't read the unwritten-rules-for-ethical-fantasy-play book, but I'm not sure this really qualifies. At least he is being honest, even if it makes you a little uncomfortable.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:14 am
by thedude
This is very acceptable. Stuff like this happens all the time in fantasy baseball, sports, and business.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:21 am
by Cream
kab21 wrote:This is perfectly acceptable. Sometimes it's a bluff, sometimes it isn't. And it's negotiating.

Taking this thread in a different direction. The first thing that I thought of was that one owner posted an owner's trade proposal for the league to see. Now this would be pretty low but I'm pretty close to doing this since I've been getting the same lopsided offers from the same owner all season. I've started sending back by own horrendously lopsided offers in the hope that he understands that he's an idiot.


I've had the same thing happen to me over the past few months. I responded the same way by sending back ridiculous proposals. I'm debating the same approach by posting some of the offers, but probably won't as that is probably taking it too far. The problem is, this guy is notorious for sending bogus offers.

Re: Unethical? Owner revealing other owner's trade offer...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:48 pm
by JMB05
What part is unethical?

Maximizing the trade value of a player?

He sounds like a smart manager.