Big Pimpin wrote:I don't recall anyone justifying Gutierrez as AL MVP.
Let me refresh your memory.
Date: June 3, 2010:
Big Pimpin wrote:And yeah, at the moment I'd probably vote for Gutierrez over Cabrera, but it would be close...
Big Pimpin wrote:Coming into today's games, Gutierrez was 0.2 RAR ahead of MCab. Yeah, the difference is negligible, but I'll take the guy who I really like and plays defense over the fat loafer whose value comes solely from hitting and plays the easiest position on the diamond.
When MCab's WAR surpassed FraGu's a day later...
So does he [Miguel Cabrera] belong in the conversation for AL MVP yet?
Big Pimpin wrote:I'd say no, because Morneau has been so much better than anyone else so far that it's honestly not even worthy of a discussion. Check back in a month or two.
I'm assuming at this point, FraGu was still in the hunt though...
But pretending that it's impossible for a player who plays an incredibly difficult defensive position at a very high level to compare to a guy who is a great hitter but plays crappy defense at the least demanding position seems counter intuitive to me. But if you want to believe that despite most players deriving most of their value from hitting (which makes sense) it's just not possible for a player to accrue most of his value based on what he does with the leather, go right ahead.
Defense is important, and a saved run could be just as important as an earned run... but Miguel Cabrera has been unreal this year. I don't think you can say the same about FraGu's defense. You bashed people pretty hard as being "uneducated" in that AL MVP thread for looking at average/RBI as evaluative statistics and not WAR... but now that FraGu's WAR is 1.9 and MCab's is 3.9, you refuse to concede that MCab is the more valuable hitter and instead retreat into some ambiguous explanation of how defense is just so much more important than offense. Last time I checked, the team with the most runs PRODUCED still wins baseball games.
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