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inkubus wrote:My mistake, it was right-handed batters that hit .192 off of him.
Madison wrote:So far, no one has been able to make a convincing stand as to why he will succeed next year. They give one or two of those reasons and try to stand on it. I've been waiting this whole offseason for someone to convince me I'm wrong.
Madison wrote:inkubus wrote:My mistake, it was right-handed batters that hit .192 off of him.
Ok, cool. We all make a mistake here and there.
mkooljr1 wrote:I'm not sure what else could possibly convince you. Last year, Loaiza improved his K/9 from 5.3 to 8.2!!! Do you have any idea what that means? Obviously not, coz you are clearly discounting this improvement. His K/9 was 8th in the majors amongst starting pitchers. His walk rate remained about the same, an already very good 2.2. And his HR/9 improved from 1.0 to .7. His K/BB ratio, which had always been very solid throughout his career (a sign of a potential breakout before 2003) improved from a very good 2.5 to 3.7. Yes, 3.7 folks. 11th best in the MAJORS amongst starting pitchers. Better than Kevin Brown, Mark Mulder, Matt Morris, Kerry Wood, Tim Hudson, Bartolo Colon and Kevin Millwood. Those are some pretty good pitchers, eh? Then you factor in a very good offense behind him for good run support and realize he's still pitching in a terrible hitting division with probably the worst set of pitchers of any division, and i'd love to hear a reason NOT to think he'll come close to repeating next year. And for the record, he added 2 pitches, not just 1. Thank you, and may the anti-Loaiza club and Madison begin its retort.
Anonymous wrote:From CBS- mentions Loaiza's two new pitches
PRESEASON FANTASY OUTLOOK
The Fantasy sleeper of the year, Loaiza rose out of nowhere, parlaying a spring-training invitation into a 21-win, Cy Young-caliber campaign with the White Sox last season. What made the difference for the journeyman right-hander was two added pitches: A cut fastball and a split-finger fastball, which helped keep opposing hitters off-balance. With a winter for opposing scouts to analyze Loaiza's newfound abilities, he's unlikely to repeat the effort this year. If you pay elite-starter prices, he's going to be a Fantasy bust. If you prepare for a dropoff, along the lines of Loaiza's 10-4 record and 3.84 ERA in 15 second-half last year, then he's a respectable option to consider in the middle of your staff. (Updated 1/16/04)
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