Nerfherders wrote: Andruw Jones was one the best defensive center fielders to ever play the game - we're talking top 3 in HISTORY. Kemp might be close offensively, but he's no Andruw Jones.
while i agree kemp wont be nearly as good defensively over the course of his career as Jones, i dont think anduw is top 3 all time...
c'mon, just off teh very top of my head he may not even be better than mike cameron, devon white, or torii hunter.
ands that before we even bring mays and Jr. into the discussion
In the following links, check out the second column from the far right, under "Fld". That measures roughly how many runs they saved with their defense. 0 is average, anything above that means they were a positive contribution to the defense and anything below means they were a net loss.
Hunter: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... osition=OF
slightly above average fielder
White: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... osition=OF
Cameron: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... osition=OF
Andruw: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... osition=OF
saved more runs than those three combined
by those metrics and that's without the benefit of well above average speed that the other three guys had.
Keep in mind, you see a lot of these guys making highlight-reel catches because they take a bad route or get a poor initial read off the ball that TV stations usually don't show. At the last nationally televised Phils/Yanks game, someone hit a line drive to center field and Granderson ran in to make a diving catch. Of course the broadcasters shouted stuff like "what an excellent catch!" But when they showed the replay, it was clear that Granderson was a freakin' statue until the ball was halfway to him, so he had to dive to compensate. Same line drive to Andruw Jones circa '99 and he makes that catch walking, but no one shouts his praise for making that play and it doesn't appear on any highlight reels.
Edit: According to the TotalZone data that we have (granted less accurate than UZR which includes stats measured 2002 and later), Andruw is only beaten by Brooks Robinson. However, that's only because Brooks played in almost 1000 more games and didn't decline until his age 39 season. Check it out:http://www.fangraphs.com/careerleaders. ... 6&min=1000