MTUCache wrote:Geek wrote:- It takes more than 30/100 to count as elite at 3b, in my opinion.
- I define elite as clearly belonging in the top 2-3 at his position...
- I'd say there are probably only two elite options at 3b--Longoria and Wright.
After that, you have A-Rod, Zimmermann, Youkilis, and maybe Mark Reynolds (I'm still a skeptic).
A-Rod is still going to be productive, but he's not a superstar performer anymore.
Anybody who wants to point out ARod's faults and the cracks in the armor is more than welcome to. I don't deny he's on the downhill side of his career, but the points you're trying to make here are just silly.
You honestly don't think that ARod is going to hit 30/100, but you have so much more evidence that Wright will?
I'll give you Longo. I agree he's slightly ahead of ARod (in any format), but I think you're just talking out of your azz if you're trying to come up with reasons why ARod isn't elite while other guys are. That's just crazy talk. You can pull out any statistic you want, you can pretend to define any trends you want, but this guy is the definition of "elite". He'll be a first-round pick next year, even if Longo is drafted ahead of him. To try and argue anything otherwise is just trying to be spiteful and incendiary.
Wright steals bases like a fiend too--people forget that he stole 27 bases last year even though his power numbers were down.
As far as A-Rod being a first rounder next year, I'd take these guys over him:
and I might consider taking some others (e.g. Mauer, Prince Fielder, Justin Upton) too. We'll see where everyone winds up at the end of the year.
We can revisit this argument at the end of the year.