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MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby mrmarley » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:42 pm

If anyone is still curious about rankings when OPS is added as a league category. The H2H World Series (http://www.rotodatabase.com) has had 10 drafts so far. League settings: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CF, OF, OF, UTIL, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P

6x6, extra cats are OPS and holds. Only included players drafted in 5 or more leagues.

6x6 MDP	5x5 MDP	Diff	Name			High	Low	Median
1 1 0 Albert Pujols 1 2 1.0
2 2 0 Hanley Ramirez 1 4 2.0
3 3 0 Alex Rodriguez 2 4 3.0
4 5 (1) Ryan Braun 3 8 5.0
5 4 1 Chase Utley 3 5 5.0
6 7 (1) Matt Kemp 6 12 7.0
7 9 (2) Evan Longoria 3 11 8.0
8 8 0 Mark Teixeira 4 11 9.0
9 6 3 Prince Fielder 4 12 9.0
10 11 (1) Miguel Cabrera 7 14 11.0
11 10 1 Ryan Howard 7 16 11.5
12 13 (1) Joe Mauer 8 24 13.0
13 12 1 Tim Lincecum 10 16 13.5
14 14 0 Troy Tulowitzki 9 17 14.5
15 15 0 David Wright 12 17 15.0
16 16 0 Ian Kinsler 8 18 15.5
17 18 (1) Matt Holliday 13 21 18.5
18 20 (2) Justin Upton 18 22 19.0
19 17 2 Carl Crawford 17 22 20.0
20 19 1 Roy Halladay 9 23 21.0
21 21 0 Jacoby Ellsbury 12 28 21.5
22 26 (4) Adrian Gonzalez 17 26 24.5
23 24 (1) Grady Sizemore 22 31 24.5
24 23 1 Jimmy Rollins 21 34 25.0
25 32 (7) Joey Votto 17 30 26.5
26 33 (7) Dustin Pedroia 25 37 27.0
27 25 2 Felix Hernandez 20 39 28.0
28 29 (1) Ryan Zimmerman 19 35 29.0
29 34 (5) Kevin Youkilis 20 35 29.5
30 27 3 Zack Greinke 18 39 30.0
31 22 9 Mark Reynolds 23 42 30.0
32 38 (6) Ichiro Suzuki 27 38 30.0
33 31 2 Victor Martinez 20 42 31.5
34 36 (2) Pablo Sandoval 27 38 32.5
35 40 (5) Jayson Werth 30 48 37.0
36 35 1 Derek Jeter 30 44 37.5
37 39 (2) Brandon Phillips 31 48 38.0
38 44 (6) Brian McCann 21 43 38.5
39 41 (2) Robinson Cano 33 44 39.0
40 28 12 CC Sabathia 28 45 40.5
41 57 (16) Ben Zobrist 28 50 41.0
42 51 (9) Kendry Morales 35 55 41.5
43 30 13 Jose Reyes 36 58 44.5
44 53 (9) Chris Carpenter 36 54 45.5
45 37 8 Justin Morneau 33 52 46.5
46 49 (3) Curtis Granderson 43 59 49.0
47 50 (3) Aaron Hill 38 62 49.5
48 47 1 Brian Roberts 46 56 49.5
49 45 4 Justin Verlander 40 66 51.0
50 46 4 Adam Lind 36 64 52.0
51 48 3 Johan Santana 29 57 54.0
52 42 10 Dan Haren 32 62 54.0
53 43 10 Jason Bay 35 68 54.0
54 56 (2) B.J. Upton 40 67 54.5
55 55 0 Cliff Lee 44 64 54.5
56 54 2 Aramis Ramirez 48 75 55.5
57 78 (21) Derrek Lee 53 69 58.5
58 68 (10) Shin-Soo Choo 50 67 59.5
59 52 7 Adam Wainwright 41 70 60.0
60 59 1 Nick Markakis 44 69 61.0
61 65 (4) Adam Dunn 42 72 62.0
62 75 (13) Yovani Gallardo 52 76 63.0
63 64 (1) Nelson Cruz 50 78 63.5
64 86 (22) Andrew McCutchen 51 71 64.0
65 62 3 Carlos Lee 49 78 65.0
66 58 8 Jon Lester 60 74 65.5
67 63 4 Jonathan Broxton 47 88 70.0
68 69 (1) Chone Figgins 53 91 70.5
69 71 (2) Jonathan Papelbon 38 104 72.5
70 61 9 Josh Hamilton 58 92 72.5
71 66 5 Mariano Rivera 50 96 73.0
72 72 0 Bobby Abreu 67 82 73.0
73 70 3 Josh Johnson 68 82 74.0
74 80 (6) Billy Butler 65 94 74.5
75 93 (18) Torii Hunter 65 90 75.0
76 91 (15) Ubaldo Jimenez 69 81 75.5
77 83 (6) Dan Uggla 58 83 76.0
78 60 18 Andre Ethier 63 82 76.5
79 76 3 Javier Vazquez 62 93 78.0
80 73 7 Josh Beckett 57 92 80.5
81 77 4 Tommy Hanson 73 94 81.5
82 89 (7) Cole Hamels 61 102 85.0
83 67 16 Manny Ramirez 62 134 86.5
84 90 (6) Clayton Kershaw 78 95 86.5
85 116 (31) Denard Span 66 116 87.0
86 100 (14) Wandy Rodriguez 70 102 87.0
87 88 (1) Michael Young 79 95 87.5
88 81 7 Adam Jones 72 98 88.5
89 79 10 Shane Victorino 70 97 91.5
90 87 3 Carlos Pena 71 119 91.5
91 82 9 Gordon Beckham 84 108 91.5
92 84 8 Matt Wieters 59 108 92.5
93 74 19 Lance Berkman 77 128 94.5
94 98 (4) Ricky Nolasco 79 99 95.0
95 85 10 Matt Cain 89 105 96.0
96 95 1 Joakim Soria 84 106 97.5
97 99 (2) Heath Bell 85 134 99.5
98 101 (3) Raul Ibanez 83 141 100.5
99 92 7 Jake Peavy 79 115 101.0
100 106 (6) Nate McLouth 95 107 101.0
101 115 (14) Andrew Bailey 98 130 102.5
102 109 (7) Chad Billingsley 97 115 103.5
103 96 7 Hunter Pence 82 119 105.5
104 142 (38) Scott Baker 93 114 106.0
105 97 8 Carlos Quentin 89 181 107.5
106 120 (14) Carlos Gonzalez 101 141 107.5
107 94 13 Francisco Rodriguez 61 135 109.5
108 102 6 Jason Bartlett 69 125 109.5
109 104 5 John Lackey 103 130 111.0
110 103 7 Michael Bourn 68 207 112.0
111 118 (7) Brian Wilson 103 136 112.5
112 163 (51) Ryan Dempster 107 174 116.0
113 173 (60) Rickie Weeks 97 168 116.5
114 111 3 Elvis Andrus 91 140 117.0
115 119 (4) Jered Weaver 109 125 117.0
116 133 (17) Asdrubal Cabrera 80 149 118.0
117 197 (80) Chris Coghlan 97 212 120.5
118 122 (4) Ian Stewart 85 135 121.0
119 123 (4) Matt Garza 101 132 121.5
120 121 (1) Jose Valverde 110 141 123.0
121 156 (35) John Danks 113 132 124.5
122 126 (4) Jason Kubel 72 175 126.5
123 136 (13) James Shields 119 139 126.5
124 127 (3) Yunel Escobar 103 181 127.0
125 137 (12) Carlos Marmol 120 140 127.0
126 146 (20) Julio Borbon 113 164 127.5
127 107 20 Jay Bruce 62 171 129.0
128 130 (2) Jair Jurrjens 103 148 130.0
129 135 (6) Brett Anderson 116 141 131.5
130 129 1 Michael Cuddyer 108 149 132.0
131 114 17 Jose Lopez 112 152 132.5
132 113 19 Francisco Cordero 115 148 132.5
133 145 (12) Rafael Soriano 107 142 135.0
134 134 0 Chipper Jones 95 194 137.0
135 177 (42) Gavin Floyd 123 189 138.0
136 124 12 Alex Rios 86 161 141.0
137 172 (35) David Ortiz 119 190 141.0
138 154 (16) Ryan Ludwick 125 204 143.0
139 105 34 Alfonso Soriano 113 247 144.0
140 139 1 Brian Fuentes 114 167 144.0
141 108 33 Alexei Ramirez 51 155 145.0
142 149 (7) Russell Martin 120 222 145.0
143 169 (26) Edwin Jackson 136 210 145.0
144 202 (58) Neftali Feliz 116 205 147.0
145 110 35 Carlos Beltran 109 188 147.5
146 131 15 Jorge Posada 122 173 150.5
147 138 9 Howie Kendrick 121 195 151.0
148 125 23 Huston Street 138 176 151.0
149 158 (9) Jorge Cantu 117 197 151.5
150 141 9 Miguel Montero 131 203 152.5
151 193 (42) Rick Porcello 138 199 153.5
152 170 (18) David Price 133 201 154.5
153 132 21 A.J. Burnett 123 200 155.0
154 144 10 Johnny Damon 116 187 156.0
155 182 (27) Mike Napoli 112 181 157.0
156 168 (12) Chad Qualls 139 173 157.0
157 152 5 Trevor Hoffman 144 192 157.0
158 151 7 Kurt Suzuki 141 179 157.5
159 150 9 Roy Oswalt 148 193 157.5
160 117 43 Stephen Drew 118 211 158.5
161 147 14 Billy Wagner 134 179 159.5
162 112 50 Brandon Webb 133 186 160.5
163 148 15 Max Scherzer 135 204 163.5
164 140 24 Nyjer Morgan 148 187 163.5
165 246 (81) Hiroki Kuroda 145 226 168.0
166 157 9 Geovany Soto 152 184 168.0
167 283 (116) Matt Thornton 152 192 170.0
168 164 4 Carlos Zambrano 111 205 170.5
169 159 10 Vladimir Guerrero 91 216 171.5
170 301 (131) Kevin Correia 154 261 172.5
171 171 0 Bengie Molina 153 221 173.0
172 174 (2) Frank Francisco 136 205 174.5
173 153 20 David Aardsma 146 206 176.0
174 143 31 Brad Hawpe 131 193 177.0
175 161 14 Chris Davis 107 228 178.5
176 181 (5) Rafael Furcal 144 273 179.0
177 228 (51) Mark DeRosa 150 214 179.0
178 220 (42) Martin Prado 100 218 179.5
179 190 (11) Leo Nunez 160 197 180.0
180 199 (19) Ben Sheets 168 211 180.0
181 201 (20) Kevin Slowey 144 218 180.5
182 166 16 Adrian Beltre 149 233 182.0
183 188 (5) Jorge De La Rosa 117 199 186.0
184 160 24 Rich Harden 135 205 186.0
185 155 30 Ryan Franklin 128 216 187.0
186 179 7 Nolan Reimold 151 214 187.5
187 #N/A #N/A Alfredo Aceves 171 216 188.0
188 194 (6) Mike Gonzalez 154 229 190.5
189 206 (17) Placido Polanco 132 242 191.5
190 192 (2) Ryan Doumit 167 231 191.5
191 195 (4) J.A. Happ 149 253 192.0
192 180 12 Garrett Jones 167 229 192.0
193 208 (15) Francisco Liriano 158 207 193.0
194 205 (11) Vernon Wells 161 241 194.0
195 175 20 James Loney 164 218 194.0
196 427 (231) Kenshin Kawakami 174 217 195.0
197 302 (105) Randy Wells 147 237 195.5
198 221 (23) Randy Wolf 165 222 195.5
199 209 (10) Jonathan Sanchez 145 233 197.5
200 #N/A #N/A Mike Adams 172 214 198.0
201 232 (31) Marco Scutaro 130 226 200.5
202 167 35 Rajai Davis 148 235 200.5
203 349 (146) Chris Perez 165 272 203.0
204 200 4 Brad Lidge 177 262 205.5
205 165 40 Bobby Jenks 168 228 206.0
206 189 17 Stephen Strasburg 113 240 208.5
207 187 20 Franklin Gutierrez 171 248 209.0
208 333 (125) Michael Wuertz 176 223 209.0
209 250 (41) Maicer Izturis 173 277 210.0
210 223 (13) Ervin Santana 163 263 211.0
211 253 (42) Phil Hughes 178 233 211.0
212 263 (51) Casey Blake 186 240 212.0
213 267 (54) Ryan Madson 175 244 213.0
214 240 (26) Aaron Harang 202 239 213.0
215 176 39 Miguel Tejada 137 243 215.0
216 226 (10) Casey McGehee 156 269 215.0
217 178 39 Scott Kazmir 187 234 215.0
218 227 (9) Jeff Niemann 181 240 216.0
219 186 33 Adam LaRoche 100 258 217.0
220 #N/A #N/A Matt Guerrier 180 240 218.0
221 238 (17) Ryan Theriot 192 244 218.0
222 204 18 Juan Rivera 142 254 219.0
223 196 27 Corey Hart 192 251 219.0
224 191 33 Ted Lilly 200 259 219.0
225 268 (43) Chris Young 191 246 220.0
226 183 43 Tim Hudson 127 237 221.0
227 243 (16) Erik Bedard 162 258 222.0
228 162 66 Juan Pierre 129 273 224.0
229 216 13 Colby Rasmus 153 247 224.5
230 #N/A #N/A Jeremy Affeldt 196 264 225.0
231 218 13 Joba Chamberlain 203 265 225.0
232 241 (9) Nick Swisher 205 249 226.0
233 245 (12) Kyle Blanks 208 269 227.0
234 184 50 Clay Buchholz 179 273 229.0
235 214 21 Matt Capps 208 269 229.0
236 215 21 Octavio Dotel 188 245 230.0
237 231 6 Mark Buehrle 209 277 232.0
238 212 26 Paul Konerko 206 246 233.0
239 247 (8) Nick Johnson 205 241 234.0
240 224 16 Hideki Matsui 201 280 234.5
241 236 5 Magglio Ordonez 140 278 235.5
242 372 (130) Luke Gregerson 199 271 236.0
243 222 21 Jhonny Peralta 213 276 236.0
244 210 34 Yadier Molina 222 261 236.0
245 230 15 Johnny Cueto 196 280 236.5
246 219 27 Erick Aybar 210 275 239.0
247 249 (2) Brian Matusz 172 255 239.5
248 225 23 A.J. Pierzynski 221 279 241.0
249 203 46 Daisuke Matsuzaka 187 270 243.0
250 237 13 Alex Gordon 216 279 243.5
251 320 (69) George Sherrill 168 259 245.5
252 213 39 Todd Helton 196 267 247.0
253 #N/A #N/A Jon Rauch 197 276 248.0
254 264 (10) Joe Blanton 202 256 248.0
255 314 (59) Scott Downs 224 269 248.0
256 242 14 Orlando Cabrera 232 278 249.0
257 251 6 Drew Stubbs 194 268 250.0
258 252 6 Aroldis Chapman 213 255 250.0
259 254 5 Mat Latos 240 270 250.0
260 383 (123) Ryan Rowland-Smith 209 274 252.0
261 233 28 Wade Davis 225 275 255.0
262 325 (63) Daniel Bard 194 279 256.0
263 339 (76) Justin Duchscherer 223 271 257.0
264 290 (26) J.P. Howell 196 267 258.0
265 262 3 J.D. Drew 200 275 259.0
266 337 (71) David DeJesus 226 274 259.0
267 256 11 Cody Ross 212 276 260.0
268 #N/A #N/A Darren O'Day 252 277 268.0
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby mrmarley » Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:44 pm

Was going to put a column to compare the MDP from rookies and cream for 5x5 against these to show the difference, but Y! and those damn accent marks :-t
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby Grounded Polo » Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:19 pm

I drafted in the H2H Midwest A Division - Houston Texapolitans. The rosters are really shallow so no space for bench hitters. I loaded up on high OPS players, think I got the lows on Zimmerman, Granderson, and Lind from the MDP. I basically neglected speed because I was getting too much value on the power hitters to find space. No one in my draft bothered with holds, will just figure it out once the season starts. I picked up Rodney because since I drafted Fuentes, as shaky as they come, getting a holds guys who is also a handcuff to my closer seemed like a good strategy.

My strategy didn't change much from my normal H2H teams even with OPS and Holds there.
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby rookies and cream » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:00 pm

Hmm. Debating whether to include these in the next MDP update, despite the different league settings. :-?
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:17 pm

rookies and cream wrote:Hmm. Debating whether to include these in the next MDP update, despite the different league settings. :-?


To be fair, we had 4 or 5 guys in West A on autodraft, but I believe a couple of them pre-ranked.

As for the draft, this was pretty much a typical H2HWS draft for me. Load up on power early, don't care too much for SB (still got BJ Upton 4th round though), build a deep rotation, and pay cheaply for saves and holds (yet still go 4 pitchers deep). I don't really like using bench spots for anything but pitchers and that's what happened. I was exploiting Yahoo's low rankings on certain players as the draft had gone on, but the minor thing I'll nitpick was I waited too long on Alcides Escobar to fill in at SS just because of the low pre-rank.
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby KCollins1304 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:18 pm

I got Cueto and Ibanez at their latest points, but had Jose Lopez and Bobby Jenks at their earliest points. The only one that bothers me is Jenks, I must be underestimating his calf injury to have picked him so early compared to the average.
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby The Artful Dodger » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:33 pm

I got Beckham, Hoffman, and Price at their MDP lows.

I probably got the high on Quentin at #89 as I drafted him a round earlier than Beckham. Like Beckham, CQ was really buried deep in the preranks.

I'm willing to wager Bruce at a high of 62 was ayebatter's doing. :-b
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby wrveres » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:02 pm

rookies and cream wrote:Hmm. Debating whether to include these in the next MDP update, despite the different league settings. :-?


Take from it what you will. A lot of these leagues are 14 teamers too.
If it helps, holds are rarely drafted until the final rounds, and most of the guys like to bump the SB's back a bit. I personally had Crawford/Ellsbury slotted for the 4th/5th round in a 14 teamer (I didn't want them). SB's don't show up every week and are very inconsistent. You will also see a lot more pitchers go off the board as most of the series vets like to fill their bench spots with starters. (recommended)

thanks for posting these marley
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby mrmarley » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:14 pm

rookies and cream wrote:Hmm. Debating whether to include these in the next MDP update, despite the different league settings. :-?


Not sure I would, but I did compare them against MDP at a glance and I found it interesting how similar most of the rankings are. Just takes one or two people in each draft to ignore OPS, causing 5x5 and 6x6 MDP rankings to look similar. Of course, there probably won't be a big difference anyway, but I know in my rankings, Votto looked like gold and Bourn didn't sniff close to the top 100.

As far as draft strategy, I went power for the first 7 rounds with a few SB's mixed in, stocked up on #3 and #4 SP's and cheap closers (Aardsma, Jenks, Lidge & Gregg). Went all pitchers for my bench spots and will pickup a couple more when Beltran & Lidge are put on the DL. Made the mistake of trying to draft top holds guys last year and won't ever do that again.
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Re: MDP for H2H World Series Leagues - 6x6 OPS & Holds

Postby mrmarley » Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:20 pm

wrveres wrote:thanks for posting these marley


Hey, no problem, was cool to see the highs and lows for each player too, never would have caught Alexei Ramírez going 51 :-° otherwise. Gotta wonder if he meant to pickup Aramis instead !+)
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