Grounded Polo wrote:I don't know how any reliever could log that many innings.
He pitched a 157 innings last year. He is primed to go 200 this year, if he is effective/healthy. Yank's have been "stretching him out" for the past 2 years.
There's a article in the Daily News today where Eiland basically says Joba sucks as a starter but is great in the bullpen, what role for him makes more sense to you?
I read that article today but its more of speculative article in a time of little NY sport news, more of a filler than anything relevant:
"I think we've all seen the difference in him when he starts and relieves",
"That's who he is. He's got to be an aggressive, come-right-at-you, power-type guy. Sometimes when he started he'd fall behind, he'd try to show all his pitches. Yes, he does have four pitches but he doesn't have to use them in every at-bat."
^Those are the only two quotes the author has by Eiland and completely manipulated them into a Joba is a reliever article. Absolutely nothing from the FO about their goals for him
The Yankees spent three year stretching Joba out to be able to log innings, as I am sure you have seen those stupid "Joba Rules" T shirts floating around NY, that there is absolutely no way they are going to give up hope now.
I have watched Joba compile a 2.76 ERA over 12 GS in 2008, so the talent and ability are definitely there. His season as a starter in 08 ended abruptly with a precautionary DL trip.
Joba had velocity issues last year, and I think it was due to the stupid babying over the years. 2009 they were skipping him, extra days of rest, only pitching two innings at a time, and all this other nonsense. The velocity was a major concern because he would throw his fastballs, and have no idea where they would end up, or what part of the plate they would catch, and it really destroyed his ability to be effective and correctly mix and match. Hence, why Eiland said, when he was behind he would try to flash all his other pitches. It was a absolute mess, when his FB wasn't there.
For 2010, as long as the velocity is back in spring training, I believe he can really lash, out. There will be no stupid inning rules, no skipping, no 5+ days rest and simply will let him pitch. With Phil's innings limit, and the desire by the FO to teach him a CB, the job is Joba's. The main key is his velocity, because he simply isn't a finesse pitcher in the slightest. His success comes from being the power/aggressive pitcher, and when he didn't have the velocity last year, he lost that mind set.
Even if he were in the bullpen it wouldn't have matter because his stuff was still diminished, and he didn't find success at all as a reliever in the pen in 09
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